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you're locked into inception radio

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network superior Wisconsin for aliens to

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to the Outlands heidi hollis the outlet

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welcome welcome everybody to my awesome

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friday evening you are listening to me

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honey how's the outlander welcome to the

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show put your feet up don't put it up on

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my table that was okay though huh grab

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some popcorn tell a friend oh my god

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that girl IDs on she's so awesome I

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don't even know I'm talking about so I

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kind of tell you guys who do not know

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what this shows about this show is about

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outlandish topics of course mm-hmm

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what's outlandish everything angels

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ghosts demons holy encounters shadow

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people to Bigfoot to the outlandish I

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say if it's weird we're here and now you

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are too so you are among friends people

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that nice don't you feel good I'll tell

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you a little bit about myself if you do

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not know who I am that's a shame it's

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really a shame but when it comes to the

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outlandish from visions of Jesus's to

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naming the shadow people I'm someone who

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has been there seen that experienced it

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freaked out phone some answers wrote

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about it got over it and now I'm hoping

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to help others do the same darn thing

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and understand this various various and

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widely strange world of ours if you want

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go to my main website which is heidi

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hollis calm just sound it out it's yeah

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mm-hmm it's a german idhe is I've had

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people spell it hide I and he D and it's

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very interesting but um my website you

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will see a gallery of alien shadow

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people youtube anything and everything

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and i want to tell you guys this network

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that i am on has some fantastic ways to

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hear the show get the irn app inception

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could just like hear me everywhere i

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love when it gets his emails for people

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like i feel asleep listening to like

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five hours of you I'm like cool that's a

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good thing or you could also just dial a

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number this how my parents listen 401

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283 6700 imeem just dial a number like

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say you're not close to any place that

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you could hear me just do that and then

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that's nice isn't it and I also want to

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let you guys know

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that you can join me in the chat room

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I'm in the chat room hello everybody how

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you doing every sweeping hello I see

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the the production tonight so yay he'll

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be able to tell us what is going on if

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anybody's chattering out there it's all

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good it's all good now i want to tell

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you guys something you know at the

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beginning of all my shows I always do

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something called here comes my special

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effects the outlandish corner oh yeah

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that's spooky sounding isn't it

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outlandish corner what is outlandish

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corner this is where I take your emails

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about anything that you've experienced

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out there I don't care what is happening

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I mean I'm not a guru I'm not a psychic

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I again I'm just somebody has dealt with

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a lot of stuff and wrote about a lot of

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headed and approaching this stuff and

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yeah so feel free to write me I don't

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care what it is and we will just go

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there i will read this stuff off and i

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will give you some advice as I figure it

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out as we go along and I don't generally

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read the emails so um it makes for a lot

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of fun and meet like doing a lot of

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editing as I'm going along because

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people swear a lot go figure I don't get

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it you see Bigfoot your living room and

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you're gonna put an effort and the email

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okay so yeah I understand that um so I

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welcome you guys to feel free to write

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me at dusk Outlander @ gmail.com or go

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to my facebook page just put a one in

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front of heidi hollis or go to Twitter

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and at one heidi hollis as well send me

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your questions and your stories that's I

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dig it it's it's all good it really is

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so um and you know what I have an

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awesome awesome guest this evening who

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has also written a ton of books on

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anything and everything odd and I will

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officially introduce her after we do the

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outlandish corner together how about

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have marie d jones here woohoo hey Marie

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how you doing did you just call me off

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ha no not really that's a compliment

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it's all good you and I are going to

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delve into the outlandish corner here

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tonight together and I'm gonna I'm just

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gonna like dig into this magic purple

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fuzzy hat and I'm gonna just read

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something off here and let's just throw

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our our pieces of advice at it how about

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that Marie is that cool alright okay

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alright okay that oh this is this is

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funny cuz somebody like already spelled

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my name funny its hide I move this body

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yeah and they call me dear Miss hide I

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that's it looks very formal and love it

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okay so here we go here we go Marie dear

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Miss hide I I would be willing to pay

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for your time for a counseling phone

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call mmm don't have it for free i'm

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doing it right now um I'm feeling a call

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to practice love and light anchoring

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ceremony specifically on satanic ritual

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cycles hmm I've been looking at two

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white magic but honestly it does not

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feel right I do not buy it okay i am a

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yogini for 25 years now i have been

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having visions for years leading me into

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this direction i did have a demonic

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infestation in my apartment it did

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battle with unseen demon that were

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eventually removed from the invocation

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of Lord Jesus Christ amen brother okay I

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am an absolute believer and Lord

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Christ's divinity your interview on

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coast to coast am was helpful to my

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realization that's cool this entity did

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try to possess me I was suddenly

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awakened with a scream for myself whoo

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that gives me chills with an extreme

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feeling of invasion and me screaming no

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and knew it was on the ceiling ah ok I

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feeling yeah no that's just not cool I

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mean maybe it's a plant but okay it

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continues I am nervous

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about this calling I do not take it

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lightly I know that it is a serious

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request but i also know through visions

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that even a few of the love and light

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vibration can offset the many evil

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selfishness so far my plan is to sit in

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meditation with God in spirit and see

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what I am directed to do what advice our

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direction do you have I trust your

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opinion Mohini mmm interesting okay I'm

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gonna take a stab first Murray okay oh

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yeah okay okay alright so so this is

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cool I think this is awesome I mean to

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feel drawn to something positive I don't

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quite know what love light anchoring

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ceremonies reflecting on satanic ritual

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cycles is about I don't get that but

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white magic that word magic always makes

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me a little nervous and the sensors out

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there I think um it's so it's like magic

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it's like even like the sensors hey

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Harry Potter of the Christian sensors I

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should say because they say well you

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know magic is all dark um but i don't i

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don't really like magic so to speak

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either because it's like you're invoking

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somebody to do something against their

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own will or to encourage something in

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the wrong way or in a positive way even

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but it's still against somebody's will

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so I'm it when it comes to you the more

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positive stuff you know Lord Christ's

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divinity hey you know prayer that's

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that's pretty magical right there so I

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say go with the flow of that mahinian

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you know live it up and follow your

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heart i think i think we're born with

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that gut instinct for a reason to follow

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a path and it you're feeling drawn to it

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25 years it's pulling you that way you

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know there's nobody on this green earth

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that can say do this because i said so

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and anybody that does say they know all

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the answers run mohandie just run so

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Marie what's your what's your pick on

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that I think she answered her own

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question I mean she really already knows

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in her heart from this from what she's

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been doing all along for so many years

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whenever you get a situation like that

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something's best to trust your heart

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trust your gut and what comes natural to

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you it's no trying to be somebody else

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or do something that you think you

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should do take your own gifts in your

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own talents and use those if your goal

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is to spread more light and love in the

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world you know you've got built-in

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inherent gifts and talents and obviously

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it's something she's been using them for

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a long time so like you said it's just

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kind of go with what you're already

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doing and don't try to you don't have to

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label or categorize it just it's your

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own authenticity that is going to be a

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fool you have to change yourself to

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change others to change the situation

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right right yeah I feel you on that too

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i mean it's spooky to think that you

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know they they were dealing with

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something demonic but apparently you

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know Jesus cleaned the house there for

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him so yay yeah yeah I mean shoot that

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that was that was an interesting one

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mohini go go with the flow do your thing

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and let rameau heaney mojo go that was

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monkey energy there you go there he go

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black so what I hope this was helpful

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for you Mohini we're gonna move on to

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the next one all right dear Heidi that's

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me in 2011 I attempted to kill myself oh

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that's horrible it was brought back all

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three times goodness three times all

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three times that I passed away ever

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since that time I've seen and felt vibes

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from some things that usually end up

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being a shadow person or a ghost ah now

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the reason why I don't think they're the

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same is because of the different

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feelings I get from them shadow people

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vibes are always bad and to me always

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have a changing color around them where

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ghosts are just like passing through the

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area from a young age I was labeled

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hypersensitive and prone to feel

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people's vibes to the people and became

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an agoraphobic because of the amount of

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feelings I was taking in

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that's what led me to the 2011 suicide

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attempt that then made me open to other

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things so I'm learning to live with the

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changes I have to make in my life to

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feel safe with not much luck but I

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wanted to send you a picture I took I

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don't see a picture here what to see if

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you see what I see I for some reason I

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find graveyards very calming and visit

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many in this picture was taken at one

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that is one that is not so comforting so

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I hope you can see it it's kind of lower

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center against the stone would probably

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have to zoom in a little tell me what

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you think east well he's I'm sorry but

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there was nothing attached to the email

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anything here but thanks for the thought

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um I don't know anybody named Heath I

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liked Heath Ledger the actor but that's

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that's an interesting name and I like

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the candy bar um it weighs 2011 haven't

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tried to kill yourself you know I

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understand that hypersensitivity to

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other people's feelings like I mean

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there are such people that i will call

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energy vampires and those who dumped

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upon you and oh don't you know what i'm

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talking about marine isn't that like I

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was like a lot of this oh gosh you feel

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it it's heavy in the room and you could

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come in perky as heck and these e yours

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of all the world you don't know who your

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is look at when it's too um it's just

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like I don't know it's like so downing

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and I mean I've had people literally say

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to me catch any why you so chipper you

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know it's like oh so irritating or

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something I'm like um because I'm

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breathing I'm having a good time for me

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I wish I apologize that I'm not you know

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dragging my my knuckles on the ground I

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don't know um but I totally understand

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that but I also understand people who

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have had you know those near death

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experiences and they come back with

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gifts if you will so I know that's it's

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pretty fascinating but I'm sorry I can't

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see this this picture but I don't I

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don't have any other questions on

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email except for look at the picture and

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I mean even if there was a picture I

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have to say this Marie I don't know if

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you get these but like I'll get these

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pictures of people like do you see it

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and I'm like no I don't see see so ok fo

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pits yeah I had people get really

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belligerent when I couldn't see anything

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and it's like you know what you showed

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me your phone its pitch black there's

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nothing there and you know people see

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what they want to see it's a matter of

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perception I guess it's really

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interesting that this gal said she was

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saved from suicide attempts or death

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literally three times i think that's

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proof that she needs to stick around and

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then her job was not done you know that

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something was telling her uh-uh they're

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not going anywhere so it there because a

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matter of learning how to take your

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ultra sensitivity to the world around

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you and treated as a gift but also find

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a way to shield yourself from the

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negative energy sort of build a little

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invisible shield around yourself to be

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able to deflect all the BS of which we

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know there is so so much out there to

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deflect but just you know again that's a

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gift just like the other game with such

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a gift right right a lot of people are

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afraid of those gifts they're rare and I

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think it does take a little bit of

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practice to try to you know know what

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kind of entities or whatever kind of

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energies to avoid and which ones to sort

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of embrace or allow it your space it's

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fine I don't have those problems I had

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nothing ever happens to owe really

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you're lucky I mean I've had things

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happen but I'm always in such awe of

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people that you know they say all these

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things have to me all the time I'm

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thinking what am i a freak are you well

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I guess it would save that you are more

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paranormal because I think it's more

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normal that people now are seeing things

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it's like the veil is growing thin some

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shock the fence time on the other side

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exactly holy smokes holy cannoli well

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yeah that's that's interesting but that

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was good advice though I you know to

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find a way to protect oneself from these

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more you know if you're super-sensitive

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you do have to build up you know a wall

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of some sort that's not just for the

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entities that's for other people yes I

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mean really isn't that the truth I mean

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oh my gosh I mean the idea of shadow

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people is this frightening but tell you

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the truth I think I'm more concerned

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with you know my fellow humans they were

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cheap from you oh my goodness yeah I

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totally gets it you know I always tell

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people give me the biggest bad as nasty

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as stinky rotten alien instead of a

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ghost you know because I get to be a

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human yeah they still may have this

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human traits that yeah yeah yeah why

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don't you take this with you to that

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first oh yeah exactly oh my gosh yeah

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and I'm totally on board with that

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alright so we're gonna move on to the

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next one Thank You Heath for that lovely

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little email I've got another little

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doozy it says dear Heidi here's my story

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I've been waiting to share with you I

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went to California for my nephew's

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wedding up I love this with people don't

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edit for my nephew's wedding a purple of

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months ago a couple of months ago a

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purple okay I'm purple a month ago uh

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following day of the wedding we got

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together my brother-in-law's house on my

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last visit I had shared some stories of

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the strange and unknown that lurks out

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there so I'm standing outside by the

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grill keeping an eye out for my

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brother-in-law and my nieces boyfriend

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approaches me it starts talking to me

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about what my niece had shared about my

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interest in the world of questions the

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world of questions okay he starts

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sharing a story about encounters his

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sibling in him have had with the shadow

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person when it encounters that caught my

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attention was when his brother opened

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the door

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or to his room only to encounter a

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shadow standing by his bed his reaction

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was to run out of the room a man I'd do

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the same and downstairs to safety but

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what happened next intrigued me as he

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was running down the hall a lady oh my

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gosh came through the ceiling of the

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hallway and pinned him to the wall oh

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boy they're so stealing things yeah the

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cousin of the rest he didn't share why I

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have no idea well he probably crapped

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his pants I'm just a fan what oh land

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stuff like that doesn't happen to me you

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know yeah we count your lucky stars what

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on earth that is um men a woman I gosh I

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want more details gotta wanna know more

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what happened so the woman sends you

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I'll tell you know what is he not

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telling than happen yeah then he had to

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grab a mop and clean the mess up off the

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floor I mean whatever but you know

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obviously this woman seemed very solid

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in it and it makes you wonder okay so he

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sees his big baddie this big shadow

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person he bolts he runs down the stairs

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and pinned I mean it's like the worst

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nightmare you getting tackled you're

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trying to run from the monster in the in

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the monster has a backup team a little

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lady or something when Lady charity I'm

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interesting how some of these you know

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the shadow person is just sort of a

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transparent non physical entity but then

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just when you think you're out of the

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woods you literally have something

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physical that can can literally knock

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you down and I don't know if I would

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call that a ghost or some kind of

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interdimensional sing that is somehow

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found the ability to take physical form

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in their world and then take it in this

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one that is really creepy to think that

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yes no you hear about cases now there

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were people are hit or pushed or there's

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some kind of

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physical contact yeah I like those from

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the ceiling either through the darn

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ceiling it's like you cannot see that

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coming no no the blind side oh man hey

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does she know I'm to say this hey yeah

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that was it under this is an anonymous

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email I'm like pls this german people

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yes smell give me more we want to know

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the rest of the story go and pin your

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cousin down and ask hopefully he's okay

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oh my goodness well I'm gonna get on to

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the next one then cuz I'm jeez I I don't

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know what to say okay this one says dear

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Heidi about 12 years ago I encountered a

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shadow person although I've always

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called it a demonic spirit yeah that's

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fine you to give you a little background

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I'm 32 and I'm a Christian of over 20

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years I received Christ at 12 and I'm a

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Baptist preacher oh this is getting

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juicy Marie ah ok I slept over at my

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mom's one night in a room where my

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cousin had previously been staying she

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was agnostic a troubled teen and had

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moved back to stay with her mom I'm not

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sure if her staying in the room has

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anything to do with the presence of a

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shadow person person or not my mom has

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since told me she encountered a shadow

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person as a child more than once she

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also had a troubled childhood it was

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night I don't know what time it was and

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I lay in bed awake I became aware that

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it was very cold I thought it seemed a

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lot colder than it should have been

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trying to sleep was uncomfortable the

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room is small just to the right of the

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bed hovering about ceiling height

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because this Selig again Marie there's a

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comment right here yep what's going on

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you say I don't like ceilings

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everything's both feelings to feel their

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eco ceiling encounters okay says the

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room is small just to pop to the right

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of the bed hovering about ceiling height

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I saw a large he

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annoyed shadow with pale white embers

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for eyes nasty it appeared very suddenly

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and i bristled with fear fully awake in

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my mind I said Jesus help me but I

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didn't call out I could feel this

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sinking feeling as I was seemingly

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engulfed in sleep I slept dreamless Lee

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for I don't know how long when I came to

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I opened my eyes expecting that whatever

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I had seen before it was just a dream

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but to my astonishment was still

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hovering in the same place Oh God worst

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nightmare you wake up from the nightmare

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in the nightmare stalker oh my gosh for

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real okay and this is but it seemed much

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less menacing now I was able to regard

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it without any fear it was just a big

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dark shadow with no legs and broad

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shoulders it seemed to drift upwards out

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of the ceiling this is too funny I have

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always supposed it went away defeated by

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some spiritual warfare that took place

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while I was out I slept peacefully the

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rest of the night until no one for a

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long time I have sent read about the

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shadow that appeared to one of jobs

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friends in the night these shadows are

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what I call lying spirits because they

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also told job jobs friends truth about

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God that were couched that were couched

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in lies I've never heard that although I

522
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seemingly saw it with my eyes I still

523
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have never been sure if I perceive the

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spirit in my mind or if it had a true

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physical form no this helps your

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research god bless you Kyle well thank

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you kyle god bless you too my goodness

528
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terrifying yeah the stealing thing think

529
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I wonder if people hear about other

530
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shadow people sightings that happen to

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have involved the ceiling and it just

532
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becomes some sort of viral you know

533
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mental urban legend in a sense it gets

534
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past or

535
00:25:08,390 --> 00:25:06,270
it's just kind of unusual that you would

536
00:25:11,450 --> 00:25:08,400
hear so much about stefka I mean why

537
00:25:14,390 --> 00:25:11,460
what is what is the point what is the

538
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:14,400
big deal if something can manifest in

539
00:25:20,300 --> 00:25:17,490
our reality it can certainly do so in

540
00:25:22,370 --> 00:25:20,310
any number of ways but why is it coming

541
00:25:25,010 --> 00:25:22,380
downward from the ceiling maybe that's

542
00:25:27,950 --> 00:25:25,020
scarier to us I don't know it's just

543
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:27,960
weird it's wild to me you know when it

544
00:25:32,750 --> 00:25:30,330
comes to the shadowpeople topic I mean

545
00:25:36,170 --> 00:25:32,760
this is like totally the thing that I

546
00:25:37,970 --> 00:25:36,180
just cover quite a bit because I I first

547
00:25:42,530 --> 00:25:37,980
put it out there chatting on this stuff

548
00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:42,540
and I was stunned when I got thousands

549
00:25:48,260 --> 00:25:45,930
of emails in response to oh my god you

550
00:25:51,410 --> 00:25:48,270
know I experienced it when did it and

551
00:25:53,300 --> 00:25:51,420
it's and it's like it's interesting to

552
00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:53,310
me because here's this a preacher a

553
00:25:59,020 --> 00:25:55,170
Baptist preacher no less now I know

554
00:26:02,420 --> 00:25:59,030
Baptist um it's don't tolerate

555
00:26:04,970 --> 00:26:02,430
paranormal snow too well oh and they

556
00:26:07,430 --> 00:26:04,980
surely don't talk about this in this

557
00:26:09,380 --> 00:26:07,440
sense so it's like it's interesting to

558
00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:09,390
me that you know this thing came as it

559
00:26:14,930 --> 00:26:12,930
did and you know it stayed there like if

560
00:26:17,210 --> 00:26:14,940
I'm still here I just want to get the

561
00:26:19,460 --> 00:26:17,220
message I didn't wonder to some of these

562
00:26:21,020 --> 00:26:19,470
religious beliefs put that spin on it

563
00:26:23,930 --> 00:26:21,030
where they automatically think it's

564
00:26:25,910 --> 00:26:23,940
demonic because you know if it didn't

565
00:26:28,550 --> 00:26:25,920
hurt the person then to me that's just

566
00:26:31,130 --> 00:26:28,560
neutral I mean there's nothing demonic

567
00:26:33,710 --> 00:26:31,140
necessarily about a shadow person

568
00:26:37,310 --> 00:26:33,720
appearing in your home on your ceiling

569
00:26:39,940 --> 00:26:37,320
ah yes it does something really nasty to

570
00:26:42,350 --> 00:26:39,950
you oh wait you know the demonic thing

571
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:42,360
yeah I definitely think you hear about

572
00:26:47,570 --> 00:26:45,330
that a lot more for people who have that

573
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:47,580
the judeo-christian Bonita sir and they

574
00:26:53,180 --> 00:26:49,730
believe in and that's a part of their

575
00:26:55,370 --> 00:26:53,190
spiritual belief system but [\h__\h] but

576
00:26:57,350 --> 00:26:55,380
it's interesting because that was still

577
00:27:00,110 --> 00:26:57,360
there then it's morning and it was just

578
00:27:03,140 --> 00:27:00,120
a very neutral is that spot on the

579
00:27:05,150 --> 00:27:03,150
ceiling yeah yeah that's what I found

580
00:27:07,670 --> 00:27:05,160
interesting too is like felt you know

581
00:27:09,500 --> 00:27:07,680
menacing and it's not quite a typical

582
00:27:11,990 --> 00:27:09,510
shadow person the shape of it sounds

583
00:27:13,940 --> 00:27:12,000
typical but not the white eyes I don't

584
00:27:16,070 --> 00:27:13,950
hear but that's not a creepy but yeah

585
00:27:17,990 --> 00:27:16,080
yes up to wonder are people mistaking

586
00:27:20,870 --> 00:27:18,000
that

587
00:27:23,510 --> 00:27:20,880
in between state you know between waking

588
00:27:26,330 --> 00:27:23,520
reality and the dream state where

589
00:27:28,460 --> 00:27:26,340
everything seems a bit surreal because

590
00:27:30,590 --> 00:27:28,470
you do have a lot of hallucinations then

591
00:27:32,390 --> 00:27:30,600
you can hear things everything is a

592
00:27:34,700 --> 00:27:32,400
little bit amplified you can have all

593
00:27:36,950 --> 00:27:34,710
kinds of visions but and you're not

594
00:27:38,930 --> 00:27:36,960
quite asleep you're not quite awake so

595
00:27:41,150 --> 00:27:38,940
you know what what I find really

596
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:41,160
fascinating about that though I've heard

597
00:27:46,580 --> 00:27:43,770
about that a lot but it's like this

598
00:27:48,290 --> 00:27:46,590
happened 12 years ago and a person will

599
00:27:50,330 --> 00:27:48,300
experience something like this and it

600
00:27:53,150 --> 00:27:50,340
will stay with them for a lifetime yeah

601
00:27:55,130 --> 00:27:53,160
I a dream you know it's like hold on

602
00:27:57,740 --> 00:27:55,140
this a whole other level because it's

603
00:27:59,390 --> 00:27:57,750
like yeah it's like you gotta you know

604
00:28:01,070 --> 00:27:59,400
it has a lot more weight to it I think

605
00:28:03,230 --> 00:28:01,080
we have thousands of Dreams in our

606
00:28:05,120 --> 00:28:03,240
lifetime but that when 12 years ago you

607
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:05,130
know it's like oh there's something to

608
00:28:11,830 --> 00:28:09,570
it is not you have been collecting these

609
00:28:14,030 --> 00:28:11,840
sightings and stories for a long time so

610
00:28:17,930 --> 00:28:14,040
what are you know what are some of the

611
00:28:19,940 --> 00:28:17,940
common things that keep showing up over

612
00:28:22,490 --> 00:28:19,950
and over yeah oh wait it would you know

613
00:28:23,930 --> 00:28:22,500
it's they like to pounce on people when

614
00:28:25,550 --> 00:28:23,940
they're at their most vulnerable so when

615
00:28:28,820 --> 00:28:25,560
they're sleeping so they do like to

616
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:28,830
creep up and take advantage and it's

617
00:28:32,780 --> 00:28:30,810
it's a horrible thing so it's like it

618
00:28:34,570 --> 00:28:32,790
sounds typical but then it's it's a

619
00:28:36,650 --> 00:28:34,580
little different just the way that it's

620
00:28:39,770 --> 00:28:36,660
appearing as I guess you could say but

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we got to get to our first break oh my

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this is MJ aliens to ghosts demons a

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jerky from shadow people to the Outlands

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welcome back everybody you listen to me

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heidi hollis the outlander remembering

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always if it's weird we're here and so

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are you so stop staring at me okay we're

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giving you advice and insight on

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00:33:29,830 --> 00:33:25,370
outlandish topics phone lines are always

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open 1 888 919 2355 but i do realize

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that most of you guys listen to us

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through the app and not live so it's

702
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okay it's all good I don't mind and I've

703
00:33:40,330 --> 00:33:37,610
got my buddies here in the chat room who

704
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are just applauding like crazy so

705
00:33:45,340 --> 00:33:43,159
anyways just before the break we did the

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outlandish corner together me and my

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guests marie d jones and i'm going to

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now officially introduce her everybody

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brace yourselves marie d jones is the

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best-selling author of over a dozen

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non-fiction books on cutting-edge

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science paranormal unknown anomalies and

713
00:34:04,299 --> 00:34:02,539
ancient knowledge that does not mean

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she's old okay everybody just don't

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00:34:08,649 --> 00:34:06,890
think that she is also i'm just kidding

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00:34:12,639 --> 00:34:08,659
yet novelist with several titles

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releasing in 2015 including two wow

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you're busy why a series she works on

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00:34:23,169 --> 00:34:18,679
macs co-authored a middle grade novel

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series evil kid hunting organization ekh

721
00:34:27,159 --> 00:34:25,520
oh and she is also a screenwriter and

722
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producer murray has appeared on over a

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00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:30,200
thousand radio shows worldwide and on

724
00:34:34,149 --> 00:34:31,690
the History Channel's nostradamus effect

725
00:34:36,399 --> 00:34:34,159
ancient aliens and she also writes

726
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regularly for magazines like new dawn

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00:34:42,430 --> 00:34:40,490
intrepid fate paranora paranoia the

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conspiracy reader everybody round of

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applause for marie d jones oh gosh every

730
00:34:54,460 --> 00:34:48,290
calm down the red carpets out almost

731
00:34:56,889 --> 00:34:54,470
there on the stomach what applause I

732
00:34:59,560 --> 00:34:56,899
read this buttons depressed you know it

733
00:35:01,359 --> 00:34:59,570
sounded before oh I'm sure it's being

734
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:01,369
pushed all over the world for all we

735
00:35:09,430 --> 00:35:04,490
know since we writers as you know we we

736
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:09,440
get such quiet attention with really

737
00:35:17,589 --> 00:35:11,690
movie stars you know where people had a

738
00:35:21,430 --> 00:35:17,599
few fans hounding us yeah it does how

739
00:35:23,350 --> 00:35:21,440
that's a little problem I've had been

740
00:35:25,930 --> 00:35:23,360
thrown at me if that counts I'm scared

741
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:25,940
lovich well listen it dropped from the

742
00:35:35,380 --> 00:35:32,210
ceiling ya know stealing robbing ends so

743
00:35:38,260 --> 00:35:35,390
I've Marie my goodness you are busy I

744
00:35:40,330 --> 00:35:38,270
mean what what on earth okay you're

745
00:35:43,240 --> 00:35:40,340
saying that you don't experience these

746
00:35:45,490 --> 00:35:43,250
odd things paranormal things yourself so

747
00:35:49,330 --> 00:35:45,500
what got your interest even look that

748
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:49,340
way then you know it's ever since I was

749
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:53,690
old enough to walk and talk I was

750
00:35:59,950 --> 00:35:56,570
telling ghost stories and believed in

751
00:36:01,990 --> 00:35:59,960
UFOs and Bigfoot and I wanted to read

752
00:36:05,950 --> 00:36:02,000
everything I could get it just is really

753
00:36:07,810 --> 00:36:05,960
into that stuff from birth um and I

754
00:36:09,580 --> 00:36:07,820
don't and you know I mean I don't know

755
00:36:11,140 --> 00:36:09,590
something may have happened Roman ah but

756
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:11,150
I mean I've asked my mom dad and they

757
00:36:16,060 --> 00:36:12,890
said no nothing really you're just a

758
00:36:18,850 --> 00:36:16,070
really weird really that's a good kid

759
00:36:21,580 --> 00:36:18,860
thanks mom my dad was a scientist so I

760
00:36:23,710 --> 00:36:21,590
also kind of grew up with this you know

761
00:36:25,570 --> 00:36:23,720
a lot of exposure to science and I

762
00:36:28,090 --> 00:36:25,580
always loved science and I always felt

763
00:36:30,940 --> 00:36:28,100
like the two went together my interest

764
00:36:33,940 --> 00:36:30,950
in the hidden spooky stuff and then

765
00:36:37,030 --> 00:36:33,950
science but I've had a few experiences

766
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:37,040
mostly when I was younger um in my teens

767
00:36:44,860 --> 00:36:40,850
and early 20s nothing is in your face is

768
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:44,870
what your readers have sent in and that

769
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:48,530
um you know just always reminded me that

770
00:36:55,450 --> 00:36:53,210
there's more to reality than what my

771
00:36:58,270 --> 00:36:55,460
five senses and what my very limited

772
00:37:01,750 --> 00:36:58,280
brain could perceive it was just a very

773
00:37:03,580 --> 00:37:01,760
natural knowing and so I started writing

774
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:03,590
when I was really young and I always

775
00:37:07,630 --> 00:37:05,930
know is gonna be a writer and I started

776
00:37:10,210 --> 00:37:07,640
writing a lot about the paranormal and I

777
00:37:14,050 --> 00:37:10,220
wrote like horror and sci-fi short

778
00:37:16,270 --> 00:37:14,060
stories and stuff such that that subject

779
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:16,280
matter was always there always around

780
00:37:23,530 --> 00:37:19,370
and then as I got older you know I got

781
00:37:26,500 --> 00:37:23,540
more serious about researching and

782
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:26,510
studying and trying to figure out what

783
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:30,170
the science was behind the supernatural

784
00:37:34,570 --> 00:37:32,330
because I there is a science to it we

785
00:37:36,720 --> 00:37:34,580
just don't know what it is yet you know

786
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:36,730
to me the science of something

787
00:37:43,190 --> 00:37:40,810
simply how it works and I want no I mean

788
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:43,200
I want to know how everything works in

789
00:37:48,450 --> 00:37:46,210
reality that we take for granted or I

790
00:37:49,950 --> 00:37:48,460
always find that fascinating like with

791
00:37:52,830 --> 00:37:49,960
you know especially an author like

792
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:52,840
yourself who's written so much on so

793
00:37:59,250 --> 00:37:55,930
many you know peculiar topics even and

794
00:38:01,590 --> 00:37:59,260
to not have always in your face type of

795
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:01,600
you know Reese you know think saying

796
00:38:05,910 --> 00:38:03,490
that you know this is really happening

797
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:05,920
so it's really a leap of faith and an

798
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:09,130
enduring faith to be able to do what you

799
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:11,770
do so that's that gives me just like

800
00:38:17,550 --> 00:38:15,370
very very much to pause about and think

801
00:38:19,830 --> 00:38:17,560
like what an interesting person that you

802
00:38:22,890 --> 00:38:19,840
know you just were really you know so

803
00:38:24,570 --> 00:38:22,900
passionate without that hardcore proof

804
00:38:27,060 --> 00:38:24,580
sitting in your living room like some of

805
00:38:30,630 --> 00:38:27,070
us have what but you know it would

806
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:30,640
happen it would happen often enough um

807
00:38:35,790 --> 00:38:33,490
and I had some really strange things it

808
00:38:38,850 --> 00:38:35,800
when I was in junior high school I moved

809
00:38:41,660 --> 00:38:38,860
um I moved to San Diego from New York

810
00:38:45,750 --> 00:38:41,670
and one of the first friends that I had

811
00:38:46,950 --> 00:38:45,760
who sort of took me in because I didn't

812
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:46,960
have any friends when I first went there

813
00:38:53,820 --> 00:38:49,690
obviously and her family was suffering

814
00:38:57,270 --> 00:38:53,830
from a very disturbing poltergeist

815
00:38:59,610 --> 00:38:57,280
experience and it was ongoing these were

816
00:39:01,530 --> 00:38:59,620
good Lutheran Church going people who

817
00:39:03,030 --> 00:39:01,540
had gone to the church for help and and

818
00:39:05,340 --> 00:39:03,040
didn't get any help you know obviously

819
00:39:08,610 --> 00:39:05,350
the lutheran church at the time it was

820
00:39:10,650 --> 00:39:08,620
like oh we don't know what to do these

821
00:39:13,500 --> 00:39:10,660
were honest people they were not lying

822
00:39:18,570 --> 00:39:13,510
they did not want publicity I only found

823
00:39:20,460 --> 00:39:18,580
out because my friend told me she wanted

824
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:20,470
me to come over and stay the night you

825
00:39:29,430 --> 00:39:24,130
know sleep oh yes they needed bait marie

826
00:39:31,830 --> 00:39:29,440
i feel really bad i kept turning her

827
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:31,840
down and goodness built if she had told

828
00:39:35,730 --> 00:39:33,490
me she wanted to be open with me because

829
00:39:39,180 --> 00:39:35,740
she said you know something might have

830
00:39:40,740 --> 00:39:39,190
and it probably won't happen to you but

831
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:40,750
she said there are things that happened

832
00:39:44,790 --> 00:39:42,610
like in the upstairs hallway they'll be

833
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:44,800
closed pins flying across the whole

834
00:39:49,170 --> 00:39:46,930
range aceptan if you get up in the

835
00:39:50,870 --> 00:39:49,180
middle and i just go to the bathroom be

836
00:39:54,150 --> 00:39:50,880
aware of

837
00:39:55,769 --> 00:39:54,160
highest all this other stuff well the

838
00:39:57,569 --> 00:39:55,779
funny thing is is finally I agreed to

839
00:39:59,219 --> 00:39:57,579
stay overnight so I just felt so bad I

840
00:40:02,400 --> 00:39:59,229
was always asking her to come to my

841
00:40:04,169 --> 00:40:02,410
house and I went there and nothing

842
00:40:06,329 --> 00:40:04,179
happened luckily but I will tell you

843
00:40:08,339 --> 00:40:06,339
that I had to go to the bathroom really

844
00:40:10,919 --> 00:40:08,349
bad in the middle of the night I did not

845
00:40:14,189 --> 00:40:10,929
leave her bed I did not leave him I did

846
00:40:16,829 --> 00:40:14,199
not go into the hole nothing happened

847
00:40:18,959 --> 00:40:16,839
the whole night I just could barely

848
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:18,969
sleep I felt kind of I'm a little

849
00:40:23,339 --> 00:40:21,130
sensitive to to that kind of stuffs I

850
00:40:25,979 --> 00:40:23,349
can kind of feel a little bit of a sense

851
00:40:28,589 --> 00:40:25,989
of foreboding or you know sort of a

852
00:40:31,919 --> 00:40:28,599
downturn and energy and so I kind of

853
00:40:34,919 --> 00:40:31,929
felt it so the next morning we were

854
00:40:36,359 --> 00:40:34,929
watching an old movie again and she was

855
00:40:39,749 --> 00:40:36,369
sitting on the couch Tommy and I was

856
00:40:45,150 --> 00:40:39,759
sitting on the just kicking back of a

857
00:40:48,209 --> 00:40:45,160
sudden I felt this something passed

858
00:40:52,739 --> 00:40:48,219
through every cell of my body it just

859
00:40:55,259 --> 00:40:52,749
passed and i stiffen enjoy musta gasped

860
00:40:59,399 --> 00:40:55,269
or something and she said you'd you did

861
00:41:05,779 --> 00:40:59,409
you just feel it and I was like yeah can

862
00:41:10,289 --> 00:41:05,789
I go home now I was a smart yeah well

863
00:41:14,219 --> 00:41:10,299
it's dead [\h__\h] I never thought that it

864
00:41:18,149 --> 00:41:14,229
was no it's not you know that sort of

865
00:41:23,009 --> 00:41:18,159
we're walking over grey goose it was

866
00:41:24,539 --> 00:41:23,019
nothing like never oh we're having a

867
00:41:26,579 --> 00:41:24,549
little difficulty hearing yeah but

868
00:41:29,729 --> 00:41:26,589
they're Maria don't know what's going on

869
00:41:31,769 --> 00:41:29,739
yeah and here you know yeah I could hear

870
00:41:35,479 --> 00:41:31,779
you now it sounds set there yeah that's

871
00:41:38,839 --> 00:41:35,489
weird it's their spirits and the wires

872
00:41:41,549 --> 00:41:38,849
gremlin x way to make a long story short

873
00:41:43,739 --> 00:41:41,559
they continue to have a lot of activity

874
00:41:46,919 --> 00:41:43,749
until her older sister moved out of the

875
00:41:48,659 --> 00:41:46,929
house and her older sister was very

876
00:41:50,819 --> 00:41:48,669
rebellious a lot of negative energy

877
00:41:53,149 --> 00:41:50,829
stuff how they talk about in poltergeist

878
00:41:56,279 --> 00:41:53,159
activity there's always one person

879
00:41:59,789 --> 00:41:56,289
running a female but the interesting

880
00:42:01,919 --> 00:41:59,799
thing is after they Carol and I lost

881
00:42:04,049 --> 00:42:01,929
touch I moved to LA for a while when I

882
00:42:06,509 --> 00:42:04,059
was a older teenager

883
00:42:08,729 --> 00:42:06,519
and she later told me when we

884
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:08,739
reconnected again that they left the

885
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:11,890
house the new owners came in and they

886
00:42:16,459 --> 00:42:14,410
literally tore the house down to you

887
00:42:18,989 --> 00:42:16,469
know the foundation have rebuilt it and

888
00:42:23,929 --> 00:42:18,999
she said we never really found out why

889
00:42:27,390 --> 00:42:23,939
they did that so but you know this the

890
00:42:30,569 --> 00:42:27,400
activity didn't follow my friend and her

891
00:42:32,819 --> 00:42:30,579
family that's a good thing which again

892
00:42:35,339 --> 00:42:32,829
makes me feel very comfortable in saying

893
00:42:37,019 --> 00:42:35,349
it was classic poltergeist activity and

894
00:42:39,959 --> 00:42:37,029
not it goes for something that would

895
00:42:42,839 --> 00:42:39,969
follow them and um but it was just

896
00:42:46,109 --> 00:42:42,849
really interesting to see how the church

897
00:42:49,109 --> 00:42:46,119
the Lutheran Church her hands were tied

898
00:42:51,539 --> 00:42:49,119
to the point where i was telling Carol

899
00:42:56,609 --> 00:42:51,549
let me see if I can figure out how to do

900
00:43:01,109 --> 00:42:56,619
an exorcism and any stupid thing I was

901
00:43:02,339 --> 00:43:01,119
like 15 or 16 I mean what an idiot so

902
00:43:04,199 --> 00:43:02,349
I'm getting all these books out of the

903
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:04,209
library because this is back when we had

904
00:43:11,339 --> 00:43:08,410
libraries folks what a farm trying to

905
00:43:13,289 --> 00:43:11,349
cast a circle in my bedroom and just

906
00:43:15,479 --> 00:43:13,299
getting a real bad show like you know

907
00:43:17,759 --> 00:43:15,489
what I can't this is not right I better

908
00:43:19,650 --> 00:43:17,769
not mess with this stuff so it's stuff

909
00:43:23,309 --> 00:43:19,660
like that so it didn't happen directly

910
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:23,319
to me but I feel something was wrong or

911
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:27,249
I felt something i remember in hollywood

912
00:43:32,309 --> 00:43:29,410
going to a halloween party at a mansion

913
00:43:34,079 --> 00:43:32,319
that we didn't find out to later one of

914
00:43:36,839 --> 00:43:34,089
the rooms somebody had been murdered and

915
00:43:39,929 --> 00:43:36,849
i remember going to put my coat in the

916
00:43:44,069 --> 00:43:39,939
room my purse and just like whoa this

917
00:43:45,689 --> 00:43:44,079
wall of bad and and you know i just sort

918
00:43:47,519 --> 00:43:45,699
of backed up and close the door and then

919
00:43:49,319 --> 00:43:47,529
somebody came up to me and said don't

920
00:43:50,789 --> 00:43:49,329
put anything in there you really know we

921
00:43:55,140 --> 00:43:50,799
don't want anybody going in that room

922
00:43:56,969 --> 00:43:55,150
and then they told me y know oh well I'm

923
00:43:59,370 --> 00:43:56,979
not putting my person there because if I

924
00:44:03,509 --> 00:43:59,380
I'll never get it back that kind of

925
00:44:05,910 --> 00:44:03,519
stuff yeah really really jealous I I

926
00:44:09,289 --> 00:44:05,920
kind of thought after time maybe it was

927
00:44:12,199 --> 00:44:09,299
because I grew up with a science

928
00:44:15,410 --> 00:44:12,209
scientists father that maybe I had

929
00:44:17,319 --> 00:44:15,420
adopted a sort of real left brain

930
00:44:19,870 --> 00:44:17,329
over-analytical

931
00:44:22,839 --> 00:44:19,880
all but maybe kept the stuff away I

932
00:44:28,509 --> 00:44:22,849
don't know it's really weird but now

933
00:44:31,059 --> 00:44:28,519
nothing happens to me well it's but you

934
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:31,069
did get a little reinforcement to be

935
00:44:36,519 --> 00:44:33,890
like there is something so yes the

936
00:44:38,589 --> 00:44:36,529
second left the lifetime I didn't need

937
00:44:40,900 --> 00:44:38,599
the reinforcement but it did you know

938
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:40,910
obviously it did help and gave me some

939
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:43,249
clues about things every now and then

940
00:44:47,319 --> 00:44:45,410
something where it'll happen where I

941
00:44:49,599 --> 00:44:47,329
just know somebody's going to email me

942
00:44:51,789 --> 00:44:49,609
that happened in you know three years or

943
00:44:54,969 --> 00:44:51,799
just that kind of thing I just remind

944
00:44:58,989 --> 00:44:54,979
you that there is this invisible reality

945
00:45:00,969 --> 00:44:58,999
back we're seeing the effects of we

946
00:45:03,910 --> 00:45:00,979
don't see the causes and so it looks

947
00:45:06,309 --> 00:45:03,920
very paranormal and very super natural

948
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:06,319
to us but on the level that it's all

949
00:45:12,729 --> 00:45:10,130
occurring it's it's quite normal yeah

950
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:12,739
indeed if you know it it's interesting

951
00:45:17,699 --> 00:45:14,930
to me to though it's like I've had

952
00:45:20,349 --> 00:45:17,709
people who are such hardcore

953
00:45:24,069 --> 00:45:20,359
investigators who have just had the

954
00:45:27,759 --> 00:45:24,079
single event yeah last them a lifetime

955
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:27,769
and they they're like look I'm set I

956
00:45:33,309 --> 00:45:29,930
don't I don't need any more i had enough

957
00:45:35,380 --> 00:45:33,319
wait i just want to be the one to look

958
00:45:37,479 --> 00:45:35,390
for the answers now you know like it's

959
00:45:39,309 --> 00:45:37,489
I've seen it shake up people's reality

960
00:45:42,339 --> 00:45:39,319
when they've experienced something so

961
00:45:43,839 --> 00:45:42,349
out of out of the norm and and it's like

962
00:45:46,900 --> 00:45:43,849
even people that I thought were really

963
00:45:50,769 --> 00:45:46,910
truly prepared for such a thing and not

964
00:45:52,630 --> 00:45:50,779
deal with it very well so it's it's kind

965
00:45:54,189 --> 00:45:52,640
of it's really interesting and said but

966
00:45:56,349 --> 00:45:54,199
you know one of the things that I think

967
00:45:59,079 --> 00:45:56,359
is is important and I I want to get your

968
00:46:02,079 --> 00:45:59,089
take on this but when it comes to people

969
00:46:05,199 --> 00:46:02,089
you know general in the population that

970
00:46:08,170 --> 00:46:05,209
have not experienced things I'm of the

971
00:46:11,890 --> 00:46:08,180
mindset that at some point they just

972
00:46:13,959 --> 00:46:11,900
might and I want to be the one to try to

973
00:46:16,509 --> 00:46:13,969
help them prepare for that moment

974
00:46:18,789 --> 00:46:16,519
because nine times out of ten they're

975
00:46:20,499 --> 00:46:18,799
going to not know what to do it's going

976
00:46:22,779 --> 00:46:20,509
to shake them up they're going to be

977
00:46:25,749 --> 00:46:22,789
looking around and I want to like reach

978
00:46:28,329 --> 00:46:25,759
those people to let them know the person

979
00:46:30,510 --> 00:46:28,339
that is probably in their life already

980
00:46:32,970 --> 00:46:30,520
has experienced something and hope

981
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:32,980
encourage them to like share their story

982
00:46:37,890 --> 00:46:35,890
so when not if but when something

983
00:46:41,130 --> 00:46:37,900
happens to another this other person

984
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:41,140
they'll be like Oh cousin cousin it had

985
00:46:45,240 --> 00:46:43,090
something happen let me go talk to

986
00:46:47,340 --> 00:46:45,250
cousin it you know I mean what's your

987
00:46:50,580 --> 00:46:47,350
take there's not that sense of isolation

988
00:46:55,490 --> 00:46:50,590
that I think occurred you know 10 years

989
00:47:00,540 --> 00:46:55,500
ago 15 20 years ago um before advent of

990
00:47:03,980 --> 00:47:00,550
the mail just like this and the TV shin

991
00:47:06,660 --> 00:47:03,990
and also breaking up a little bit again

992
00:47:09,300 --> 00:47:06,670
you know the social networking to the

993
00:47:11,460 --> 00:47:09,310
ability for somebody now to post I had

994
00:47:14,430 --> 00:47:11,470
something happen to me here it is and

995
00:47:17,010 --> 00:47:14,440
then get 50 responses of people saying

996
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:17,020
oh my god you know my friend George did

997
00:47:23,250 --> 00:47:20,650
or my brother had that happen so we're

998
00:47:26,580 --> 00:47:23,260
so much more connected now that we can

999
00:47:28,740 --> 00:47:26,590
find those other people and help them

1000
00:47:32,010 --> 00:47:28,750
not be so afraid or help them figure out

1001
00:47:34,860 --> 00:47:32,020
how to deal with it exactly I mean it's

1002
00:47:37,890 --> 00:47:34,870
it is kind of cool to see the expansion

1003
00:47:39,990 --> 00:47:37,900
of these topics out on the web or you

1004
00:47:42,270 --> 00:47:40,000
know with the groups in the Facebook and

1005
00:47:44,580 --> 00:47:42,280
the the videos and then we got the TV

1006
00:47:48,090 --> 00:47:44,590
and the radio shows that's right so cool

1007
00:47:49,740 --> 00:47:48,100
yeah totally mainstream now yes and

1008
00:47:51,900 --> 00:47:49,750
before the internet people you actually

1009
00:47:53,460 --> 00:47:51,910
had to leave your house to go meet other

1010
00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:53,470
people have experienced things so you

1011
00:47:58,230 --> 00:47:56,050
could vent because you couldn't vent to

1012
00:48:00,270 --> 00:47:58,240
just anybody for a while you know just

1013
00:48:02,790 --> 00:48:00,280
people can't even imagine that we had

1014
00:48:04,980 --> 00:48:02,800
going to library look up information we

1015
00:48:06,930 --> 00:48:04,990
didn't have google we don't have cell

1016
00:48:08,610 --> 00:48:06,940
phones you know oh how the heck did we

1017
00:48:11,700 --> 00:48:08,620
survive but you know you bought a

1018
00:48:14,460 --> 00:48:11,710
something that a confessional make live

1019
00:48:17,490 --> 00:48:14,470
on your show I do you know when I was

1020
00:48:19,950 --> 00:48:17,500
little I was terrified of everything

1021
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:19,960
that I was interested in I was terrified

1022
00:48:24,900 --> 00:48:22,570
of ghosts I was terrified of aliens I

1023
00:48:27,180 --> 00:48:24,910
was so afraid of the dark that I had to

1024
00:48:30,030 --> 00:48:27,190
sleep with a light on I'm still a big

1025
00:48:31,500 --> 00:48:30,040
chicken and you know and that's the

1026
00:48:34,140 --> 00:48:31,510
thing if something happened to me I'd

1027
00:48:38,220 --> 00:48:34,150
probably have a meltdown yet at the same

1028
00:48:40,980 --> 00:48:38,230
time there's that part of me that wants

1029
00:48:43,980 --> 00:48:40,990
to know what it is where it comes from

1030
00:48:44,170 --> 00:48:43,990
how it got here you know I want to know

1031
00:48:49,780 --> 00:48:44,180
the

1032
00:48:52,780 --> 00:48:49,790
mechanics of it so I'll risk pooping my

1033
00:48:54,790 --> 00:48:52,790
pants and terror oh dear God I'm not

1034
00:48:58,020 --> 00:48:54,800
going on a hunt with you ever Marie ya

1035
00:49:00,970 --> 00:48:58,030
ever and i really hate that clear I

1036
00:49:03,430 --> 00:49:00,980
totally can't sleep ender have to have

1037
00:49:06,490 --> 00:49:03,440
light or a TV on I really am a big

1038
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:06,500
chicken but at the same but that's okay

1039
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:08,690
you know believe it or not I i bet i

1040
00:49:13,450 --> 00:49:10,970
went through that stage two and i always

1041
00:49:16,359 --> 00:49:13,460
recommend and i do this too i have a

1042
00:49:17,980 --> 00:49:16,369
lighthouse on somewhere in my place so I

1043
00:49:20,470 --> 00:49:17,990
do see a trickle of light because I do

1044
00:49:22,299 --> 00:49:20,480
experience a lot of odd things and I

1045
00:49:26,109 --> 00:49:22,309
want to see what's coming gosh darn you

1046
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:26,119
know [\h__\h] yeah it's like I want to see

1047
00:49:29,559 --> 00:49:27,770
what's cuz it's happened to me where I

1048
00:49:31,780 --> 00:49:29,569
didn't have a light on and I resented

1049
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:31,790
and regretted it ever since I'm like and

1050
00:49:35,470 --> 00:49:33,770
it helps to keep the negative things

1051
00:49:37,690 --> 00:49:35,480
away they don't like that you could see

1052
00:49:40,329 --> 00:49:37,700
him coming so I I always encourage it

1053
00:49:42,670 --> 00:49:40,339
hey flip a light on I'm a grown woman I

1054
00:49:44,410 --> 00:49:42,680
don't care how much I'm light on yeah I

1055
00:49:46,420 --> 00:49:44,420
have a hard time sleeping like with my

1056
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:46,430
back to the door it's because you know

1057
00:49:51,910 --> 00:49:49,490
what's out there I want to be it's like

1058
00:49:54,700 --> 00:49:51,920
well okay so I guess I want to see

1059
00:49:57,280 --> 00:49:54,710
what's coming I don't rather see it and

1060
00:50:01,809 --> 00:49:57,290
be able to react ya got the baby back

1061
00:50:05,589 --> 00:50:01,819
yeah amazing fear probably is behind a

1062
00:50:07,539 --> 00:50:05,599
lot of curiosity that we all feel you

1063
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:07,549
know we don't there's something I want

1064
00:50:13,780 --> 00:50:11,450
to understand it and if we understand it

1065
00:50:16,420 --> 00:50:13,790
then maybe that can remove that element

1066
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:16,430
fear not in every instance I think that

1067
00:50:22,150 --> 00:50:19,490
there are things to be afraid of but the

1068
00:50:24,819 --> 00:50:22,160
unknown is always so terrifying to us

1069
00:50:29,079 --> 00:50:24,829
even when it may be something you know

1070
00:50:32,559 --> 00:50:29,089
amazingly beneficial or really positive

1071
00:50:36,039 --> 00:50:32,569
or fun I mean some of these entities may

1072
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:36,049
be a blasting out with but being at that

1073
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:39,530
sort of block of fear oh yeah oh yeah so

1074
00:50:43,539 --> 00:50:41,210
tell us I mean you've got so many books

1075
00:50:45,430 --> 00:50:43,549
out there tell us some of these books

1076
00:50:48,069 --> 00:50:45,440
some of the topics that you've written

1077
00:50:50,589 --> 00:50:48,079
on and why the heck did you go in those

1078
00:50:55,180 --> 00:50:50,599
directions because it's so multi layers

1079
00:50:57,140 --> 00:50:55,190
I'm like what she did that do you know

1080
00:50:59,299 --> 00:50:57,150
what I my

1081
00:51:02,720 --> 00:50:59,309
tension when I was younger was to write

1082
00:51:04,970 --> 00:51:02,730
novels is what I'm now kind of we're

1083
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:04,980
transitioning and putting more before I

1084
00:51:10,490 --> 00:51:06,770
drop you know get too old to do anything

1085
00:51:12,470 --> 00:51:10,500
I started out writing fiction short

1086
00:51:15,650 --> 00:51:12,480
stories I wrote horror and science

1087
00:51:20,589 --> 00:51:15,660
fiction's what I liked and as I got

1088
00:51:23,299 --> 00:51:20,599
older it started articles for some

1089
00:51:25,069 --> 00:51:23,309
paranormal magazines that existed a long

1090
00:51:28,490 --> 00:51:25,079
time ago one of them was called beyond

1091
00:51:31,250 --> 00:51:28,500
reality there was alternate dimensions

1092
00:51:34,670 --> 00:51:31,260
these are all the magazine's folks um

1093
00:51:37,279 --> 00:51:34,680
and then screenwriting so I was the

1094
00:51:38,690 --> 00:51:37,289
writer so I was kind of getting my feet

1095
00:51:41,630 --> 00:51:38,700
wet and all these different types of

1096
00:51:43,940 --> 00:51:41,640
writing I really had no intention of

1097
00:51:46,069 --> 00:51:43,950
ever writing a nonfiction book it just

1098
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:46,079
wasn't something that turned me on and

1099
00:51:52,549 --> 00:51:50,490
then just one day about 10 12 years ago

1100
00:51:54,170 --> 00:51:52,559
I just thought I feel like writing

1101
00:51:56,210 --> 00:51:54,180
always see if i could write them on this

1102
00:51:59,029 --> 00:51:56,220
is me I'll just gonna see if I can do

1103
00:52:01,730 --> 00:51:59,039
this and I'll do it no I want to see if

1104
00:52:03,109 --> 00:52:01,740
I can make a children's video and I went

1105
00:52:06,710 --> 00:52:03,119
he did that and I want to see if I

1106
00:52:09,410 --> 00:52:06,720
needed and I wrote a book looking for

1107
00:52:11,660 --> 00:52:09,420
God in all the wrong places yes I guess

1108
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:11,670
the only way to describe it it's virtual

1109
00:52:19,220 --> 00:52:14,490
humor you know sort of commentary and

1110
00:52:22,700 --> 00:52:19,230
humor it's old maybe five copies but it

1111
00:52:24,769 --> 00:52:22,710
got me Lisa Hagen my patient who you

1112
00:52:26,660 --> 00:52:24,779
know were talking about earlier who was

1113
00:52:29,539 --> 00:52:26,670
awesome that was the gift that that book

1114
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:29,549
brought into my life nice at least a

1115
00:52:32,930 --> 00:52:31,410
nice bird working together she said what

1116
00:52:34,430 --> 00:52:32,940
do you want a break and I said I want to

1117
00:52:37,190 --> 00:52:34,440
write about quantum physics in the

1118
00:52:40,730 --> 00:52:37,200
paranormal and I mean she must have

1119
00:52:42,829 --> 00:52:40,740
thought I was nuts I didn't have a

1120
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:42,839
platform nobody knew who I was and I was

1121
00:52:49,789 --> 00:52:46,650
not HD and yet Lisa believed in me I

1122
00:52:52,130 --> 00:52:49,799
believed in me we put together I put

1123
00:52:54,500 --> 00:52:52,140
together a proposal immediately and

1124
00:52:58,940 --> 00:52:54,510
within three months I had the book

1125
00:53:00,620 --> 00:52:58,950
science p SI nce a deal was new page

1126
00:53:02,779 --> 00:53:00,630
books and there was no looking back

1127
00:53:08,870 --> 00:53:02,789
after that I mean they just wanted one

1128
00:53:10,550 --> 00:53:08,880
book after another and I was permitted

1129
00:53:13,700 --> 00:53:10,560
by them too

1130
00:53:16,810 --> 00:53:13,710
write about whatever I wanted well holy

1131
00:53:19,820 --> 00:53:16,820
smokes i would just roll with it yeah

1132
00:53:21,500 --> 00:53:19,830
amazing you know as all you don't have

1133
00:53:24,170 --> 00:53:21,510
to kind of stay within the parameters of

1134
00:53:28,220 --> 00:53:24,180
what their company published but I had

1135
00:53:30,910 --> 00:53:28,230
such freedom and so you know how hard it

1136
00:53:33,770 --> 00:53:30,920
is to write a nonfiction book it is

1137
00:53:35,780 --> 00:53:33,780
grueling to do the research and then get

1138
00:53:37,730 --> 00:53:35,790
it all down in the right way and edit it

1139
00:53:40,610 --> 00:53:37,740
blah blah if you're going to do that you

1140
00:53:42,740 --> 00:53:40,620
have got to love your subject matter

1141
00:53:44,780 --> 00:53:42,750
true and then you're going to live with

1142
00:53:46,100 --> 00:53:44,790
it for a long time after its out you're

1143
00:53:49,090 --> 00:53:46,110
going to be promoting and doing radio

1144
00:53:51,260 --> 00:53:49,100
and talking to people about it so I

1145
00:53:53,900 --> 00:53:51,270
realized pretty quickly that if I'm

1146
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:53,910
gonna do all this work it's gonna have

1147
00:53:59,960 --> 00:53:55,890
to be subjects that really turned me on

1148
00:54:02,630 --> 00:53:59,970
and I wrote a book with my dad my dad

1149
00:54:05,750 --> 00:54:02,640
again was a geophysicist we wrote a book

1150
00:54:09,110 --> 00:54:05,760
about super volcanoes after that I wrote

1151
00:54:12,770 --> 00:54:09,120
a book about the 2012 mythologies an igg

1152
00:54:17,330 --> 00:54:12,780
mccall 2013 was a hugely successful book

1153
00:54:20,870 --> 00:54:17,340
and if I may say so myself probably the

1154
00:54:22,820 --> 00:54:20,880
best objective look at that whole

1155
00:54:25,700 --> 00:54:22,830
phenomenon because that's what it was it

1156
00:54:29,710 --> 00:54:25,710
was a phenomenon don't want a false

1157
00:54:32,930 --> 00:54:29,720
mythology finish and then Larry flaxman

1158
00:54:34,970 --> 00:54:32,940
got a hold of me email me he had read

1159
00:54:36,590 --> 00:54:34,980
science and we sort of hit it off really

1160
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:36,600
well and decided to write some books

1161
00:54:43,010 --> 00:54:41,010
together so we did 1111 the time prep

1162
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:43,020
phenomenon which was and actually

1163
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:45,330
eccentric that our publisher new page

1164
00:54:49,700 --> 00:54:47,370
books came to us with and said hey have

1165
00:54:53,930 --> 00:54:49,710
you guys ever heard about this we're

1166
00:54:55,820 --> 00:54:53,940
like huh no wow um but we looked into

1167
00:54:57,620 --> 00:54:55,830
and it was amazing they just that

1168
00:55:00,140 --> 00:54:57,630
triggered you know a whole series of

1169
00:55:02,300 --> 00:55:00,150
books that he and I wrote but you know

1170
00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:02,310
it got to the point where you get really

1171
00:55:09,020 --> 00:55:06,210
addicted to being able to write about

1172
00:55:11,210 --> 00:55:09,030
what fascinates you because you get your

1173
00:55:13,340 --> 00:55:11,220
research and then you get to write about

1174
00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:13,350
it you have a book that comes down then

1175
00:55:21,110 --> 00:55:17,610
you get to talk about it we turned in

1176
00:55:24,430 --> 00:55:21,120
our our eighth book together and my 13th

1177
00:55:26,589 --> 00:55:24,440
book a couple of weeks ago called mind

1178
00:55:29,410 --> 00:55:26,599
where's the history of mind control and

1179
00:55:32,410 --> 00:55:29,420
electronic surveillance which is way off

1180
00:55:34,210 --> 00:55:32,420
in a different tangent yeah Wow you know

1181
00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:34,220
I was kind of feeling like calm man I

1182
00:55:39,220 --> 00:55:35,930
really want to get back to my fiction

1183
00:55:40,870 --> 00:55:39,230
roots and luckily I signed but a year

1184
00:55:43,599 --> 00:55:40,880
and a half ago with a literary manager

1185
00:55:46,540 --> 00:55:43,609
who handles fiction in film and got a

1186
00:55:49,780 --> 00:55:46,550
lot of that stuff going and that's been

1187
00:55:52,290 --> 00:55:49,790
really awesome so I'll keep doing

1188
00:55:55,890 --> 00:55:52,300
nonfiction but I won't pump out as many

1189
00:56:02,170 --> 00:55:55,900
as before because it really is

1190
00:56:06,460 --> 00:56:02,180
exhausting people don't realize it's a

1191
00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:06,470
thing of passion it has to be be yes it

1192
00:56:10,359 --> 00:56:08,690
really is and it's like you've got to

1193
00:56:14,230 --> 00:56:10,369
have the interest you've got to have the

1194
00:56:16,630 --> 00:56:14,240
desire and and it's it really it does it

1195
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:16,640
takes over your mind takes over your

1196
00:56:24,250 --> 00:56:20,810
life or a bit yeah people don't realize

1197
00:56:26,589 --> 00:56:24,260
that after about the book are you you

1198
00:56:30,849 --> 00:56:26,599
know prepared to talk about it over and

1199
00:56:33,190 --> 00:56:30,859
over again for the dude who knows how

1200
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:33,200
long and I think a lot of people don't

1201
00:56:38,470 --> 00:56:35,450
they don't realize that there's the

1202
00:56:41,170 --> 00:56:38,480
marketing side of things and that's the

1203
00:56:42,849 --> 00:56:41,180
last a long time so yeah you dang well

1204
00:56:45,130 --> 00:56:42,859
better like the subject you're writing

1205
00:56:49,210 --> 00:56:45,140
about yeah I just say though isn't it a

1206
00:56:52,300 --> 00:56:49,220
blast I mean I tell people it's like try

1207
00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:52,310
not to go above where you are at in your

1208
00:56:56,890 --> 00:56:54,770
life and how you express yourself if you

1209
00:56:59,710 --> 00:56:56,900
choose to put your story together in a

1210
00:57:01,300 --> 00:56:59,720
book yeah i right as I speak so i might

1211
00:57:04,990 --> 00:57:01,310
say the word crap in a book because

1212
00:57:07,630 --> 00:57:05,000
that's how I talk so I know it's like

1213
00:57:08,859 --> 00:57:07,640
I'm very casual it's like but when some

1214
00:57:10,180 --> 00:57:08,869
people you know I've had a lot of

1215
00:57:12,370 --> 00:57:10,190
friends a lot of people that I know is

1216
00:57:13,870 --> 00:57:12,380
just like I didn't wrote this book and

1217
00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:13,880
would you take a look at it and I see

1218
00:57:19,510 --> 00:57:16,250
all this these fancy words that I have

1219
00:57:22,030 --> 00:57:19,520
never heard them say before I like you

1220
00:57:24,430 --> 00:57:22,040
know what that's wrong no you don't just

1221
00:57:26,349 --> 00:57:24,440
be yourself and just relate it as if

1222
00:57:28,599 --> 00:57:26,359
you're telling a friend over coffee

1223
00:57:31,839 --> 00:57:28,609
having a good old time I mean that the

1224
00:57:34,420 --> 00:57:31,849
station ille yeah find your own voice

1225
00:57:35,950 --> 00:57:34,430
because there's the there's home well

1226
00:57:37,220 --> 00:57:35,960
now there's millions of writers out

1227
00:57:39,620 --> 00:57:37,230
there because there's

1228
00:57:43,010 --> 00:57:39,630
a whole world of self-publishing oh yeah

1229
00:57:45,740 --> 00:57:43,020
and yeah you got to find your own voice

1230
00:57:49,220 --> 00:57:45,750
but I've been really lucky that I got to

1231
00:57:53,060 --> 00:57:49,230
write so many books that had something

1232
00:57:54,950 --> 00:57:53,070
to do with the side of life that we

1233
00:57:57,440 --> 00:57:54,960
don't know as much about because not all

1234
00:57:59,390 --> 00:57:57,450
my books are paranormal I wrote a book

1235
00:58:01,700 --> 00:57:59,400
called destiny versus choice the

1236
00:58:03,349 --> 00:58:01,710
scientific and spiritual evidence behind

1237
00:58:07,849 --> 00:58:03,359
Satan free well I have the longest

1238
00:58:11,030 --> 00:58:07,859
subtitles in the world and but you know

1239
00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:11,040
cuz I i always have felt that I have a

1240
00:58:14,750 --> 00:58:12,810
destiny always since I was a very little

1241
00:58:17,270 --> 00:58:14,760
girl and I was talking to so many people

1242
00:58:19,130 --> 00:58:17,280
at the time who wanted to know Marie do

1243
00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:19,140
you think do you believe in destiny do

1244
00:58:22,250 --> 00:58:20,490
you think I have a destiny do you

1245
00:58:23,599 --> 00:58:22,260
believe in fate and so I thought you

1246
00:58:26,210 --> 00:58:23,609
know I want to write a book about this

1247
00:58:29,330 --> 00:58:26,220
and the funny thing is as I'm writing

1248
00:58:31,940 --> 00:58:29,340
about that subject there are these sort

1249
00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:31,950
of paranormal elements that sneak in you

1250
00:58:40,220 --> 00:58:37,050
know talking about talking to a tarot

1251
00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:40,230
readers and astrologers and [\h__\h] if

1252
00:58:44,300 --> 00:58:42,090
anybody who reads the different

1253
00:58:47,210 --> 00:58:44,310
divination systems or anybody who reads

1254
00:58:49,250 --> 00:58:47,220
the pitch to leave what palm readers we

1255
00:58:52,430 --> 00:58:49,260
gonna get to their left brake here Marie

1256
00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:52,440
oh boy listen to me honey hey Outlander

1257
00:59:11,790 --> 00:58:53,970
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01:02:48,660 --> 01:02:40,780
Heidi check out her amazing website at

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01:02:57,430 --> 01:02:53,860
aliens to ghosts demons a jerky from

1327
01:03:21,420 --> 01:02:57,440
shadow people to the outlandish party

1328
01:03:25,930 --> 01:03:23,710
welcome back everybody listen to me

1329
01:03:28,059 --> 01:03:25,940
heidi hollis the outlander remembering

1330
01:03:29,529 --> 01:03:28,069
always if it's weird we're here we're

1331
01:03:31,569 --> 01:03:29,539
giving you advice and insight and

1332
01:03:32,799 --> 01:03:31,579
outlandish topics and the phone lines

1333
01:03:35,380 --> 01:03:32,809
are always open but i know you guys

1334
01:03:37,990 --> 01:03:35,390
mostly listen to us through the app so

1335
01:03:40,539 --> 01:03:38,000
it's all good I forgive you I have my

1336
01:03:42,099 --> 01:03:40,549
awesome guest here Marie d jones and i

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01:03:45,819 --> 01:03:42,109
want you guys to go to our website which

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01:03:50,109 --> 01:03:45,829
is marie d jones com correct that's

1339
01:03:52,180 --> 01:03:50,119
right yes so special hi just like you

1340
01:03:56,500 --> 01:03:52,190
the nip there you go just put your name

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01:03:59,740 --> 01:03:56,510
up there are you spell it right it's not

1342
01:04:03,190 --> 01:03:59,750
marry it's Marie oh gosh and not Maria

1343
01:04:05,440 --> 01:04:03,200
please yes not Maria either so my

1344
01:04:07,599 --> 01:04:05,450
goodness we were talking about your your

1345
01:04:10,839 --> 01:04:07,609
work and so much that you've been doing

1346
01:04:14,770 --> 01:04:10,849
and it's such a broad range of things

1347
01:04:17,289 --> 01:04:14,780
but you have a new book viral mythology

1348
01:04:20,079 --> 01:04:17,299
what on earth is that about please

1349
01:04:23,020 --> 01:04:20,089
please tell that long subtitle for us oh

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01:04:27,400 --> 01:04:23,030
my gosh okay here we go ready it's viral

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01:04:31,990 --> 01:04:27,410
mythology how the truth of the Ancients

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01:04:36,039 --> 01:04:32,000
was encoded and passed down through

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01:04:40,720 --> 01:04:36,049
legend art and architecture probably the

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01:04:42,339 --> 01:04:40,730
longest title ever holy it does tell the

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01:04:45,609 --> 01:04:42,349
story though it gives you a good idea

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01:04:48,519 --> 01:04:45,619
huh so you know it does I mean that's it

1357
01:04:50,589 --> 01:04:48,529
subtitle search for yes is this sounds

1358
01:04:54,900 --> 01:04:50,599
like ancient aliens material for the TV

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01:04:57,069 --> 01:04:54,910
series it is is about I've absolutely

1360
01:05:00,279 --> 01:04:57,079
fascinated with how things go viral

1361
01:05:02,559 --> 01:05:00,289
whether it's in the news or Facebook or

1362
01:05:05,380 --> 01:05:02,569
Twitter or I love that there is

1363
01:05:08,500 --> 01:05:05,390
literally a science behind how you take

1364
01:05:13,029 --> 01:05:08,510
a piece of information or a an image or

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01:05:15,460 --> 01:05:13,039
what have you viral and when Larry and I

1366
01:05:18,069 --> 01:05:15,470
set out to write the book we were asking

1367
01:05:20,740 --> 01:05:18,079
questions such as how did things go

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01:05:22,900 --> 01:05:20,750
viral in the olden days you know right

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01:05:24,880 --> 01:05:22,910
hey I'll just uh they threw a stone and

1370
01:05:28,059 --> 01:05:24,890
hit somebody with a note on it that's

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01:05:30,960 --> 01:05:28,069
what exactly and because if you think

1372
01:05:33,730 --> 01:05:30,970
about it the stuff that went viral

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01:05:34,480 --> 01:05:33,740
thousands of years ago ended up becoming

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01:05:40,780 --> 01:05:34,490
our

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01:05:42,790 --> 01:05:40,790
textbooks that were taught in school the

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01:05:44,830 --> 01:05:42,800
stuff that didn't go viral that got

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01:05:48,130 --> 01:05:44,840
suppressed or buried or forgotten or

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01:05:50,770 --> 01:05:48,140
ignored that's our hidden history and we

1379
01:05:54,160 --> 01:05:50,780
were just so fascinated by how do we

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01:05:56,320 --> 01:05:54,170
piece together our history based on the

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01:06:00,220 --> 01:05:56,330
stuff that has gone viral enough to

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01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:00,230
stand the test of time and is a lot of

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01:06:07,300 --> 01:06:04,010
it hidden in legends and folklore and

1384
01:06:10,510 --> 01:06:07,310
stories and myths and religious texts

1385
01:06:13,720 --> 01:06:10,520
isn't hidden in art whether we're

1386
01:06:17,410 --> 01:06:13,730
talking primitive rock etchings and you

1387
01:06:19,630 --> 01:06:17,420
know sprawls on inside of cave walls is

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01:06:22,770 --> 01:06:19,640
it hidden in buildings like the pyramids

1389
01:06:25,600 --> 01:06:22,780
and different monuments and temples is

1390
01:06:26,890 --> 01:06:25,610
all of that stuff from primitive and

1391
01:06:31,630 --> 01:06:26,900
ancient times trying to tell us

1392
01:06:33,940 --> 01:06:31,640
something and if so what because that's

1393
01:06:37,570 --> 01:06:33,950
our history you know I'm if you think

1394
01:06:41,320 --> 01:06:37,580
about today we embed truth in our novels

1395
01:06:44,950 --> 01:06:41,330
and movies in TV series you can watch a

1396
01:06:47,200 --> 01:06:44,960
TV series like breaking bad and you'll

1397
01:06:49,630 --> 01:06:47,210
say well that's fiction but there's so

1398
01:06:53,050 --> 01:06:49,640
much truth about the human condition in

1399
01:06:56,890 --> 01:06:53,060
that story good point that you could

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01:06:59,380 --> 01:06:56,900
make assumptions about human beings from

1401
01:07:01,390 --> 01:06:59,390
that and you know I'm a massive walking

1402
01:07:04,000 --> 01:07:01,400
dead freak fan not because I like

1403
01:07:06,250 --> 01:07:04,010
zombies I actually us better not be real

1404
01:07:08,980 --> 01:07:06,260
that's all I'm gonna say yeah I hate

1405
01:07:12,640 --> 01:07:08,990
zombies but what I love about that show

1406
01:07:15,580 --> 01:07:12,650
is how much truth there is about human

1407
01:07:17,859 --> 01:07:15,590
behavior under those types of conditions

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01:07:21,849 --> 01:07:17,869
and I love family guy there's a lot of

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01:07:24,670 --> 01:07:21,859
issues I'm scared is hey you know odd my

1410
01:07:27,190 --> 01:07:24,680
son and he got me hooked on that and I

1411
01:07:30,130 --> 01:07:27,200
don't funny they touch on truths

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01:07:32,620 --> 01:07:30,140
sometimes you know tricks that make you

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01:07:34,630 --> 01:07:32,630
look comfortable yeah it's just like oh

1414
01:07:36,880 --> 01:07:34,640
my he really went there how do they get

1415
01:07:38,380 --> 01:07:36,890
away with that that's really what the

1416
01:07:41,020 --> 01:07:38,390
book is about so we talk about

1417
01:07:44,109 --> 01:07:41,030
everything from you know ancient are

1418
01:07:46,780 --> 01:07:44,119
ancient and primitive types of art how

1419
01:07:47,530 --> 01:07:46,790
writing came about and how information

1420
01:07:51,610 --> 01:07:47,540
got

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01:07:53,740 --> 01:07:51,620
down from where death went to today can

1422
01:07:55,780 --> 01:07:53,750
we really discern what our true history

1423
01:07:58,450 --> 01:07:55,790
is from it what pieces might we be

1424
01:08:01,120 --> 01:07:58,460
missing can you read myths you know

1425
01:08:03,070 --> 01:08:01,130
Greek Roman Norse myths is there any

1426
01:08:06,220 --> 01:08:03,080
truth in there how do you find what it

1427
01:08:07,990 --> 01:08:06,230
is all that kind of stuff who do tell do

1428
01:08:11,880 --> 01:08:08,000
you have any juicy ones for us what's up

1429
01:08:15,820 --> 01:08:11,890
with a good viral myth the flood miss

1430
01:08:18,070 --> 01:08:15,830
the flood shows that in you know the

1431
01:08:21,099 --> 01:08:18,080
Bible obviously is the story know what

1432
01:08:25,420 --> 01:08:21,109
it shows up in the Epic of Gilgamesh it

1433
01:08:27,700 --> 01:08:25,430
shows up in a lot of different origin

1434
01:08:31,720 --> 01:08:27,710
stories from different regions all over

1435
01:08:33,670 --> 01:08:31,730
the world so and and if you kind of do

1436
01:08:35,110 --> 01:08:33,680
the comparative religion and comparative

1437
01:08:38,020 --> 01:08:35,120
mythology thing where you look for

1438
01:08:42,490 --> 01:08:38,030
common symbols and motifs you start to

1439
01:08:44,650 --> 01:08:42,500
see that this flood is everywhere and it

1440
01:08:48,099 --> 01:08:44,660
seems to have happened within a certain

1441
01:08:51,130 --> 01:08:48,109
timeframe which was 10 to 12,000 years

1442
01:08:54,570 --> 01:08:51,140
ago so then what you do is you turn to

1443
01:08:59,250 --> 01:08:54,580
the scientific community which could be

1444
01:09:01,809 --> 01:08:59,260
archeologists anthropologists geologists

1445
01:09:05,470 --> 01:09:01,819
climatologist and you say what evidence

1446
01:09:07,750 --> 01:09:05,480
do you guys have that a major global

1447
01:09:10,500 --> 01:09:07,760
flood could have occurred at that time

1448
01:09:13,930 --> 01:09:10,510
and believe it or not there's a lot of

1449
01:09:15,820 --> 01:09:13,940
real good scientific evidence that there

1450
01:09:17,620 --> 01:09:15,830
was a flood you know they can look at

1451
01:09:20,380 --> 01:09:17,630
different layers of sediment and they

1452
01:09:23,260 --> 01:09:20,390
can say oh here you go about 11,000

1453
01:09:26,470 --> 01:09:23,270
years ago this happened so it does well

1454
01:09:28,510 --> 01:09:26,480
in a place with the timings yeah yeah I

1455
01:09:32,800 --> 01:09:28,520
mean that's really the only way that we

1456
01:09:34,570 --> 01:09:32,810
have to prove that a biblical story or a

1457
01:09:38,890 --> 01:09:34,580
story that you read in the bhagavad-gita

1458
01:09:41,230 --> 01:09:38,900
or a myth of old might have some truth

1459
01:09:43,809 --> 01:09:41,240
to it isn't God I was getting a little

1460
01:09:45,190 --> 01:09:43,819
worried that God didn't get rid of these

1461
01:09:46,809 --> 01:09:45,200
horrible people because I'm really

1462
01:09:49,510 --> 01:09:46,819
hoping for another good cleansing oh

1463
01:09:52,030 --> 01:09:49,520
there's another flood only all the

1464
01:09:56,080 --> 01:09:52,040
politicians it's all yeah they'll be the

1465
01:09:58,480 --> 01:09:56,090
first ones on the hooks here we go what

1466
01:10:00,760 --> 01:09:58,490
to think that you can read a myth cuz i

1467
01:10:03,160 --> 01:10:00,770
loved mythology in high school and

1468
01:10:05,830 --> 01:10:03,170
oh yeah and that there might be some

1469
01:10:08,950 --> 01:10:05,840
truth in this outlandish and embellished

1470
01:10:10,210 --> 01:10:08,960
you know fascinating stories that there

1471
01:10:11,950 --> 01:10:10,220
might have actually then might have

1472
01:10:15,370 --> 01:10:11,960
actually been talking about some real

1473
01:10:17,410 --> 01:10:15,380
people Zeus sound yeah someone I mean

1474
01:10:19,600 --> 01:10:17,420
they didn't understand the concept of

1475
01:10:23,080 --> 01:10:19,610
thunder and lightning so what did they

1476
01:10:26,020 --> 01:10:23,090
do they daya find it they wrote a a you

1477
01:10:29,710 --> 01:10:26,030
know amazing beautiful dark violent

1478
01:10:31,840 --> 01:10:29,720
story about gods and goddesses around

1479
01:10:33,370 --> 01:10:31,850
the things that happened that they

1480
01:10:36,280 --> 01:10:33,380
didn't understand and now it's our job

1481
01:10:38,470 --> 01:10:36,290
all these years later when we understand

1482
01:10:41,950 --> 01:10:38,480
what was going on like volcanoes and

1483
01:10:43,660 --> 01:10:41,960
earthquakes excuse me to go back and

1484
01:10:45,070 --> 01:10:43,670
look at those stories and go okay you

1485
01:10:47,320 --> 01:10:45,080
know that's what they may have been

1486
01:10:49,480 --> 01:10:47,330
talking about there and then what other

1487
01:10:51,250 --> 01:10:49,490
truths might they been be trying to tell

1488
01:10:53,680 --> 01:10:51,260
us that we haven't figured out yet and

1489
01:10:57,940 --> 01:10:53,690
also you know you said the ancient

1490
01:11:02,800 --> 01:10:57,950
aliens words and that's one of the most

1491
01:11:04,660 --> 01:11:02,810
popular theories behind how a lot of

1492
01:11:08,320 --> 01:11:04,670
this information may have been passed

1493
01:11:10,540 --> 01:11:08,330
down how we may have received a lot of

1494
01:11:13,300 --> 01:11:10,550
very sophisticated information that we

1495
01:11:16,290 --> 01:11:13,310
didn't have because you know if you

1496
01:11:19,750 --> 01:11:16,300
lived five thousand years ago let's say

1497
01:11:23,830 --> 01:11:19,760
it would take forever for you to get a

1498
01:11:26,230 --> 01:11:23,840
piece of information 500 miles away how

1499
01:11:30,010 --> 01:11:26,240
I me I had to go by foot you know camel

1500
01:11:32,110 --> 01:11:30,020
whatever crude boat if you had it let's

1501
01:11:34,750 --> 01:11:32,120
somehow throughout our history there

1502
01:11:38,320 --> 01:11:34,760
have been these regional and global

1503
01:11:41,400 --> 01:11:38,330
leaps in advancement and understanding

1504
01:11:44,740 --> 01:11:41,410
and technology and did somebody give us

1505
01:11:47,140 --> 01:11:44,750
the information and did they kind of

1506
01:11:50,380 --> 01:11:47,150
give it to everybody the same time and

1507
01:11:53,320 --> 01:11:50,390
it so that's one of the big theories and

1508
01:11:56,020 --> 01:11:53,330
there's a lot of really cool evidence if

1509
01:11:58,080 --> 01:11:56,030
you want to call it that for the fact

1510
01:12:04,960 --> 01:11:58,090
that we may have been visited by our

1511
01:12:07,420 --> 01:12:04,970
friends from the ceiling oh it was your

1512
01:12:09,160 --> 01:12:07,430
fault that was there I mean you called

1513
01:12:11,380 --> 01:12:09,170
it and then all of a sudden it just fell

1514
01:12:12,670 --> 01:12:11,390
in row like that I'm like looking from

1515
01:12:13,870 --> 01:12:12,680
up above they had to come through the

1516
01:12:16,300 --> 01:12:13,880
ceiling

1517
01:12:19,209 --> 01:12:16,310
you're like I really hate stuff to the

1518
01:12:23,290 --> 01:12:19,219
silica and boom boom boom my gosh that's

1519
01:12:24,939 --> 01:12:23,300
it happen you are gonna get I can almost

1520
01:12:26,740 --> 01:12:24,949
guarantee you're gonna have to keep me

1521
01:12:29,530 --> 01:12:26,750
posted on this you're gonna it's fun of

1522
01:12:32,800 --> 01:12:29,540
emails and messages from people who have

1523
01:12:35,020 --> 01:12:32,810
had ceiling out because it's like

1524
01:12:36,910 --> 01:12:35,030
totally open the door to all the people

1525
01:12:38,860 --> 01:12:36,920
that thought they were total freaks I

1526
01:12:44,470 --> 01:12:38,870
didn't want to talk about their ceiling

1527
01:12:47,229 --> 01:12:44,480
encounter my gosh it that NASA the

1528
01:12:49,270 --> 01:12:47,239
portal is I don't know the portals are

1529
01:12:52,959 --> 01:12:49,280
all above our heads people don't look up

1530
01:12:58,000 --> 01:12:52,969
keep your head down down all this under

1531
01:13:00,100 --> 01:12:58,010
our feet gay person in our series you

1532
01:13:02,260 --> 01:13:00,110
know I I wanted to touch a little bit

1533
01:13:04,899 --> 01:13:02,270
too on this is this kind of an odd

1534
01:13:06,850 --> 01:13:04,909
coincidence because okay i call myself

1535
01:13:11,830 --> 01:13:06,860
weird and I'm sorry but your little

1536
01:13:15,160 --> 01:13:11,840
strange to Marie it's okay i'm aware but

1537
01:13:17,649 --> 01:13:15,170
this is so weird here you have EK HOA

1538
01:13:19,959 --> 01:13:17,659
will kill kid hunting organization i

1539
01:13:22,540 --> 01:13:19,969
have diary blog of the fickle finders

1540
01:13:24,220 --> 01:13:22,550
and it's kind of like the investigative

1541
01:13:26,800 --> 01:13:24,230
like thing having kids look into

1542
01:13:30,399 --> 01:13:26,810
different stuff it is that what your

1543
01:13:34,840 --> 01:13:30,409
your story is here this why a title that

1544
01:13:36,399 --> 01:13:34,850
echo well I have another series that my

1545
01:13:40,000 --> 01:13:36,409
manager were trying to get out call

1546
01:13:44,169 --> 01:13:40,010
mythology USA which is similar but echo

1547
01:13:47,709 --> 01:13:44,179
is when my son was in elementary school

1548
01:13:49,570 --> 01:13:47,719
my son has a disability hmm and he

1549
01:13:51,070 --> 01:13:49,580
walked with a limp it was in a

1550
01:13:54,280 --> 01:13:51,080
wheelchair walk you know all this stuff

1551
01:13:58,840 --> 01:13:54,290
he was being bullied in grade school and

1552
01:14:00,850 --> 01:13:58,850
I wasn't aware of it at first and then I

1553
01:14:04,720 --> 01:14:00,860
kind of became aware of it after the

1554
01:14:06,550 --> 01:14:04,730
fact however I discovered that he had a

1555
01:14:08,950 --> 01:14:06,560
real creative way this is a true this is

1556
01:14:10,470 --> 01:14:08,960
a you know a real story so the book is

1557
01:14:14,590 --> 01:14:10,480
based on something that really happened

1558
01:14:18,129 --> 01:14:14,600
my son unbeknownst to me had started a

1559
01:14:22,959 --> 01:14:18,139
spy organization at his school called

1560
01:14:24,520 --> 01:14:22,969
echo knife hunting organization they he

1561
01:14:26,200 --> 01:14:24,530
and other kids that were bullied and

1562
01:14:26,859 --> 01:14:26,210
friends of his and other kids that

1563
01:14:30,069 --> 01:14:26,869
eventually

1564
01:14:33,369 --> 01:14:30,079
to join echo created a very

1565
01:14:35,739 --> 01:14:33,379
sophisticated system of rankings you

1566
01:14:38,199 --> 01:14:35,749
know you could be a private and elite a

1567
01:14:40,029 --> 01:14:38,209
commander inner the heavies like system

1568
01:14:42,819 --> 01:14:40,039
of rankings that you went through here a

1569
01:14:45,959 --> 01:14:42,829
member of echo they had a website that

1570
01:14:48,580 --> 01:14:45,969
my son had designed he was very young

1571
01:14:50,199 --> 01:14:48,590
that had ambitions on it so every

1572
01:14:52,569 --> 01:14:50,209
morning before they went to school the

1573
01:14:55,419 --> 01:14:52,579
echo kids would get on the website get

1574
01:14:57,790 --> 01:14:55,429
their mission for the day and they would

1575
01:15:00,609 --> 01:14:57,800
carry that mission out and you know I

1576
01:15:02,859 --> 01:15:00,619
didn't know all this until all right but

1577
01:15:04,689 --> 01:15:02,869
I kept hearing in whispering echo at

1578
01:15:06,729 --> 01:15:04,699
orem are some masters your homework no

1579
01:15:09,759 --> 01:15:06,739
I'm working on echo I thought he was

1580
01:15:13,060 --> 01:15:09,769
just writing a story or something it was

1581
01:15:14,919 --> 01:15:13,070
so incredibly sophisticated that they

1582
01:15:16,600 --> 01:15:14,929
ended up having like hundreds of kids

1583
01:15:19,739 --> 01:15:16,610
that wanted to be an echo and the

1584
01:15:23,549 --> 01:15:19,749
bullies form their own group called eek

1585
01:15:26,439 --> 01:15:23,559
destroy echo kids everywhere no come on

1586
01:15:29,799 --> 01:15:26,449
absolutely not kidding you and I mine

1587
01:15:32,290 --> 01:15:29,809
echoes team yeah you know and the school

1588
01:15:38,439 --> 01:15:32,300
kind of knew about it but it was um it

1589
01:15:41,949 --> 01:15:38,449
was not violent or it actually gave kids

1590
01:15:44,560 --> 01:15:41,959
like my son so much confidence oh my

1591
01:15:47,759 --> 01:15:44,570
lord he became like the ringleader he

1592
01:15:50,889 --> 01:15:47,769
became so popular for being this kid

1593
01:15:54,279 --> 01:15:50,899
that took his that my son is brilliant

1594
01:15:57,069 --> 01:15:54,289
with technology and so he took what he

1595
01:16:01,270 --> 01:15:57,079
was good at and used it as a tool to

1596
01:16:03,009 --> 01:16:01,280
help fight bullies and basically what

1597
01:16:04,810 --> 01:16:03,019
echo did was they spied on the bullies

1598
01:16:06,699 --> 01:16:04,820
and they stayed one step ahead of them

1599
01:16:09,279 --> 01:16:06,709
everything the bullies were planning at

1600
01:16:14,500 --> 01:16:09,289
go knew about Nick kind of sabotage it

1601
01:16:17,350 --> 01:16:14,510
and stop it love it couple years later

1602
01:16:20,439 --> 01:16:17,360
because my son is 13 now so a couple of

1603
01:16:24,369 --> 01:16:20,449
years after all of that was going on and

1604
01:16:26,979 --> 01:16:24,379
I met a TV producer named Wendy cram and

1605
01:16:29,049 --> 01:16:26,989
we became friends we work together on a

1606
01:16:31,330 --> 01:16:29,059
few things and I just off the top of my

1607
01:16:32,889 --> 01:16:31,340
head mentioned oh you're gonna get the

1608
01:16:35,830 --> 01:16:32,899
biggest kick out of what my son's been

1609
01:16:38,949 --> 01:16:35,840
doing and I told her and she went nuts

1610
01:16:41,109 --> 01:16:38,959
and she said you know let's write up a

1611
01:16:43,000 --> 01:16:41,119
treatment and then it turned out that i

1612
01:16:45,459 --> 01:16:43,010
had to have a book first everybody

1613
01:16:47,259 --> 01:16:45,469
wanted a book series Wow I had other

1614
01:16:49,330 --> 01:16:47,269
things going on I just kind of let it go

1615
01:16:52,149 --> 01:16:49,340
and then work so i went to talia

1616
01:16:54,609 --> 01:16:52,159
Gandolfo my literary manager that was

1617
01:16:56,949 --> 01:16:54,619
the first thing she said to me sit your

1618
01:17:01,239 --> 01:16:56,959
butt down and write that before you and

1619
01:17:02,649 --> 01:17:01,249
Max forget it now what happened Wow my

1620
01:17:05,169 --> 01:17:02,659
son is still friends with all the echo

1621
01:17:08,409 --> 01:17:05,179
kids by the way so I wrote it and got to

1622
01:17:12,250 --> 01:17:08,419
deal and we're Metzner working on book

1623
01:17:13,810 --> 01:17:12,260
too but we've taken that reality you

1624
01:17:16,719 --> 01:17:13,820
know what happened but we're adding a

1625
01:17:20,529 --> 01:17:16,729
sci-fi spin to it to make it even bigger

1626
01:17:23,529 --> 01:17:20,539
and cooler and creepier it isn't but

1627
01:17:25,149 --> 01:17:23,539
yeah that it like that those middle

1628
01:17:27,429 --> 01:17:25,159
grade books i gotta tell you and you

1629
01:17:30,599 --> 01:17:27,439
know she written one middle grade kids

1630
01:17:33,279 --> 01:17:30,609
are so sophisticated now that they want

1631
01:17:37,330 --> 01:17:33,289
you know they want to be entertained and

1632
01:17:39,909 --> 01:17:37,340
they want it to be good stuff right all

1633
01:17:42,369 --> 01:17:39,919
right mmm but yeah right you're you know

1634
01:17:44,229 --> 01:17:42,379
you're on the right track but I've got a

1635
01:17:46,060 --> 01:17:44,239
question here that's coming in from the

1636
01:17:48,699 --> 01:17:46,070
chat room they're asking if you're

1637
01:17:50,739 --> 01:17:48,709
writing a screenplay for this and then

1638
01:17:53,709 --> 01:17:50,749
they say never mind so this is getting

1639
01:17:55,989 --> 01:17:53,719
written into you know to inspire other

1640
01:17:58,659 --> 01:17:55,999
kids to be on television or something or

1641
01:18:01,029 --> 01:17:58,669
a filmer eventually our plans are with

1642
01:18:02,500 --> 01:18:01,039
echo though it's going to we originally

1643
01:18:05,439 --> 01:18:02,510
were going to do a trilogy now it's

1644
01:18:08,259 --> 01:18:05,449
going to be a six book series and it's a

1645
01:18:11,040 --> 01:18:08,269
Beca will grow and evolve as my son and

1646
01:18:13,419 --> 01:18:11,050
his friends have been new issues come up

1647
01:18:15,369 --> 01:18:13,429
but like I said that we're adding in

1648
01:18:18,509 --> 01:18:15,379
this sci-fi element that is going to be

1649
01:18:22,330 --> 01:18:18,519
absolutely phenomenal and it is being

1650
01:18:26,020 --> 01:18:22,340
shopped for a film series or a

1651
01:18:29,560 --> 01:18:26,030
television series so whatever happens

1652
01:18:32,739 --> 01:18:29,570
first it isn't it a slow process it's

1653
01:18:35,830 --> 01:18:32,749
like oh my goodness people have no idea

1654
01:18:38,229 --> 01:18:35,840
i mean the passion has to drag for years

1655
01:18:39,729 --> 01:18:38,239
in you because everybody doesn't catch

1656
01:18:41,379 --> 01:18:39,739
up to where you really want to see it

1657
01:18:43,810 --> 01:18:41,389
things go and you know what you better

1658
01:18:46,389 --> 01:18:43,820
have the thickest skin on the planet cuz

1659
01:18:48,729 --> 01:18:46,399
you're gonna be rejected you're going to

1660
01:18:52,030 --> 01:18:48,739
come so close to something and then have

1661
01:18:53,920 --> 01:18:52,040
it fall through oh yeah honestly that I

1662
01:19:00,390 --> 01:18:53,930
have not shot myself in the head yet is

1663
01:19:03,310 --> 01:19:00,400
such a into my thick italian skin but i

1664
01:19:04,930 --> 01:19:03,320
understand no I know you've been on a

1665
01:19:07,000 --> 01:19:04,940
couple of different shows you also were

1666
01:19:08,890 --> 01:19:07,010
on nastradamus effect what were you

1667
01:19:11,620 --> 01:19:08,900
talking about on history channel there

1668
01:19:14,710 --> 01:19:11,630
that was a series that thing and I'm not

1669
01:19:16,930 --> 01:19:14,720
a big fan of TV shows I'm kind of

1670
01:19:19,780 --> 01:19:16,940
self-conscious I do whether I talked up

1671
01:19:21,400 --> 01:19:19,790
a good storm but um and also I tend to

1672
01:19:23,700 --> 01:19:21,410
talk too much so it's kind of like all

1673
01:19:26,320 --> 01:19:23,710
right when you show no no you're good

1674
01:19:30,040 --> 01:19:26,330
nostradamus effect was a series that

1675
01:19:32,500 --> 01:19:30,050
history channel did before 2000 December

1676
01:19:35,620 --> 01:19:32,510
21st 2012 to kind of play upon that

1677
01:19:40,980 --> 01:19:35,630
whole hype and the mythology and I was

1678
01:19:45,880 --> 01:19:40,990
interviewed to talk about the web bought

1679
01:19:50,430 --> 01:19:45,890
in some of the ways that information

1680
01:19:54,160 --> 01:19:50,440
excuse me it was being could sort of

1681
01:19:57,010 --> 01:19:54,170
evolve and expand beyond 2012 as

1682
01:19:59,260 --> 01:19:57,020
technology expanded and I got to talk

1683
01:20:01,570 --> 01:19:59,270
more about that kind of stuff but they

1684
01:20:04,540 --> 01:20:01,580
also did ask me about Nostradamus

1685
01:20:07,990 --> 01:20:04,550
himself and what methodologies he might

1686
01:20:10,330 --> 01:20:08,000
have used to get his information about

1687
01:20:12,250 --> 01:20:10,340
the future so one of the things that I

1688
01:20:16,030 --> 01:20:12,260
talked about was the collective

1689
01:20:17,950 --> 01:20:16,040
unconscious the zero-point field as

1690
01:20:20,680 --> 01:20:17,960
Larry and I call it the grid where you

1691
01:20:23,740 --> 01:20:20,690
have information like a sea of

1692
01:20:26,800 --> 01:20:23,750
information past present and future that

1693
01:20:29,860 --> 01:20:26,810
can be tapped into and I think that

1694
01:20:32,350 --> 01:20:29,870
probably is what psychics and remote

1695
01:20:34,060 --> 01:20:32,360
viewers are tapping into to get their

1696
01:20:37,060 --> 01:20:34,070
information about the past present

1697
01:20:39,130 --> 01:20:37,070
future so that's kinda stuff I got to

1698
01:20:42,190 --> 01:20:39,140
talk about well that's interesting so

1699
01:20:45,100 --> 01:20:42,200
you think that that is where this info

1700
01:20:47,830 --> 01:20:45,110
is all coming from I all have that

1701
01:20:50,590 --> 01:20:47,840
ability some really a lot better than

1702
01:20:54,370 --> 01:20:50,600
others to you know I think every now and

1703
01:20:56,320 --> 01:20:54,380
then we all get those times where we

1704
01:20:58,480 --> 01:20:56,330
know something is to happen and it

1705
01:21:01,120 --> 01:20:58,490
happens or we have some kind of

1706
01:21:03,250 --> 01:21:01,130
flashback to the past that wasn't the

1707
01:21:05,200 --> 01:21:03,260
past that we're living now but you know

1708
01:21:05,640 --> 01:21:05,210
may have very well have been a past life

1709
01:21:08,880 --> 01:21:05,650
of our

1710
01:21:11,430 --> 01:21:08,890
then the human brain is is the only

1711
01:21:13,770 --> 01:21:11,440
thing that stand between us and the fact

1712
01:21:16,200 --> 01:21:13,780
that time is not linear beyond the

1713
01:21:18,420 --> 01:21:16,210
construct of the human brain so if that

1714
01:21:20,820 --> 01:21:18,430
field of information is out there now

1715
01:21:22,770 --> 01:21:20,830
perhaps there are times that we have

1716
01:21:24,930 --> 01:21:22,780
that ability to tap into it and some

1717
01:21:27,120 --> 01:21:24,940
people obviously are a lot better than

1718
01:21:31,620 --> 01:21:27,130
others a lot of people tend to rely to

1719
01:21:34,680 --> 01:21:31,630
tap into Google search yeah all you have

1720
01:21:36,570 --> 01:21:34,690
to say is go Google or something now

1721
01:21:38,610 --> 01:21:36,580
it's just so funny you don't even have

1722
01:21:43,860 --> 01:21:38,620
to touch the screen or anything anymore

1723
01:21:46,290 --> 01:21:43,870
the fiddle is google almost has a the

1724
01:21:49,080 --> 01:21:46,300
ability to predict the future based on

1725
01:21:53,400 --> 01:21:49,090
the information that it's taking in and

1726
01:21:55,200 --> 01:21:53,410
I know that it like in terms of trying

1727
01:21:57,180 --> 01:21:55,210
to protect a terrorist attack and you're

1728
01:22:00,300 --> 01:21:57,190
listening to the chatter and stuff oh

1729
01:22:02,400 --> 01:22:00,310
yeah but these these web search engines

1730
01:22:06,660 --> 01:22:02,410
and web bots which is this big sort of

1731
01:22:08,100 --> 01:22:06,670
search engine dump where people have

1732
01:22:10,770 --> 01:22:08,110
been able to actually predict things

1733
01:22:13,190 --> 01:22:10,780
that were going to happen based upon

1734
01:22:15,240 --> 01:22:13,200
just global chatter and global

1735
01:22:17,520 --> 01:22:15,250
conversations and keywords that were

1736
01:22:19,200 --> 01:22:17,530
being searched more often and I'm not

1737
01:22:21,750 --> 01:22:19,210
just talking about terrorist attacks i'm

1738
01:22:23,880 --> 01:22:21,760
talking about historical events there's

1739
01:22:26,370 --> 01:22:23,890
something happening that oh wow we saw

1740
01:22:29,400 --> 01:22:26,380
that coming because enough of the

1741
01:22:31,980 --> 01:22:29,410
collective unconscious out there was

1742
01:22:33,900 --> 01:22:31,990
kind of you know merging and people were

1743
01:22:35,610 --> 01:22:33,910
i hope you know i want to know about

1744
01:22:36,870 --> 01:22:35,620
this what's going on with this let's go

1745
01:22:39,140 --> 01:22:36,880
now with that and all sort of merge

1746
01:22:43,590 --> 01:22:39,150
together it's almost like there's some

1747
01:22:45,540 --> 01:22:43,600
hidden web connecting everybody and you

1748
01:22:48,360 --> 01:22:45,550
know there's I get what you're what

1749
01:22:50,760 --> 01:22:48,370
you're saying i have heard you know like

1750
01:22:52,980 --> 01:22:50,770
you know just before like 911 happened a

1751
01:22:55,530 --> 01:22:52,990
lot of people were having dreams of you

1752
01:22:58,980 --> 01:22:55,540
know horrible things and I i even did

1753
01:23:01,080 --> 01:22:58,990
and I dreamt I'd I'd seen a plane at a

1754
01:23:03,000 --> 01:23:01,090
building I really oh my god are you

1755
01:23:05,100 --> 01:23:03,010
probably totally but you probably didn't

1756
01:23:08,580 --> 01:23:05,110
tell anybody right I did you know this

1757
01:23:10,320 --> 01:23:08,590
is the funny part right I told a group

1758
01:23:13,080 --> 01:23:10,330
of friends of mine and I totally forgot

1759
01:23:15,690 --> 01:23:13,090
about it and you know after it happened

1760
01:23:17,100 --> 01:23:15,700
my friends go oh my god hide it you were

1761
01:23:18,729 --> 01:23:17,110
right I'm like I was right about what

1762
01:23:21,790 --> 01:23:18,739
don't you remember the dream about the

1763
01:23:23,890 --> 01:23:21,800
the plane I'm like oh oh I did didn't I

1764
01:23:25,569 --> 01:23:23,900
you know it's just like I totally forgot

1765
01:23:28,299 --> 01:23:25,579
about it but i remember it was really

1766
01:23:30,790 --> 01:23:28,309
traumatic you know but just amazing that

1767
01:23:33,129 --> 01:23:30,800
you told somebody yeah somebody that had

1768
01:23:35,560 --> 01:23:33,139
a better memory than I did yeah but if

1769
01:23:38,799 --> 01:23:35,570
we do that all the time and how often

1770
01:23:40,810 --> 01:23:38,809
must we ignore important messages that

1771
01:23:42,970 --> 01:23:40,820
we're getting from that field of

1772
01:23:46,180 --> 01:23:42,980
information you know cuz we're just

1773
01:23:47,950 --> 01:23:46,190
small minds on other things you know I I

1774
01:23:49,479 --> 01:23:47,960
think it's so important like you're

1775
01:23:51,700 --> 01:23:49,489
talking about this hidden web that may

1776
01:23:53,859 --> 01:23:51,710
be connecting all of us and but then

1777
01:23:56,049 --> 01:23:53,869
there's that apparent web that human

1778
01:23:58,149 --> 01:23:56,059
connection where we should be reaching

1779
01:23:59,799 --> 01:23:58,159
out to people and enlightening each

1780
01:24:02,259 --> 01:23:59,809
other and it's a crying shame that's

1781
01:24:05,169 --> 01:24:02,269
still there's a level of ridicule that

1782
01:24:07,089 --> 01:24:05,179
comes along with these odd topics that I

1783
01:24:09,520 --> 01:24:07,099
think just needs to be shaken down

1784
01:24:11,350 --> 01:24:09,530
already it's like come on o people might

1785
01:24:13,720 --> 01:24:11,360
laugh at me you know really it's it's

1786
01:24:15,669 --> 01:24:13,730
really not that big of a deal you know I

1787
01:24:18,129 --> 01:24:15,679
laugh harder than anybody else can in

1788
01:24:21,129 --> 01:24:18,139
the room so oh well you know it's like

1789
01:24:22,779 --> 01:24:21,139
just it needs to be broken down people

1790
01:24:24,729 --> 01:24:22,789
need to start opening up and sharing

1791
01:24:26,979 --> 01:24:24,739
more often and it's like I really

1792
01:24:29,709 --> 01:24:26,989
commend you you know for someone that

1793
01:24:31,660 --> 01:24:29,719
has not been necessarily right in the

1794
01:24:33,790 --> 01:24:31,670
nest of the paranormal but she sure did

1795
01:24:35,620 --> 01:24:33,800
help explain it and I wanted to ask you

1796
01:24:38,109 --> 01:24:35,630
did you you know it's kind of convenient

1797
01:24:40,479 --> 01:24:38,119
to have a dad with the mind that he does

1798
01:24:42,629 --> 01:24:40,489
I mean did you pick at his brain to be

1799
01:24:46,779 --> 01:24:42,639
like okay dad what do you think yeah

1800
01:24:49,149 --> 01:24:46,789
yeah that's cool died of ALS of juniors

1801
01:24:51,040 --> 01:24:49,159
though that horrible disease oh sorry to

1802
01:24:52,569 --> 01:24:51,050
hear that yeah oh and that was hard

1803
01:24:54,580 --> 01:24:52,579
because we wanted to write another book

1804
01:24:57,009 --> 01:24:54,590
together after we wrote super volcano

1805
01:24:59,709 --> 01:24:57,019
but I picked my dad's brain there's a

1806
01:25:04,149 --> 01:24:59,719
physicist so I picked his brain when i

1807
01:25:08,169 --> 01:25:04,159
wrote science my dad believed in ghosts

1808
01:25:11,259 --> 01:25:08,179
and UFOs he was we loved UFOs as a child

1809
01:25:13,950 --> 01:25:11,269
growing up my dad and some of his

1810
01:25:16,540 --> 01:25:13,960
scientific colleagues he was you know

1811
01:25:17,560 --> 01:25:16,550
professors with at fairfield university

1812
01:25:20,370 --> 01:25:17,570
when happy they would get together

1813
01:25:23,529 --> 01:25:20,380
around the kitchen table drinking beer

1814
01:25:25,600 --> 01:25:23,539
brilliant oceanographer you know

1815
01:25:30,459 --> 01:25:25,610
climatologist business is what happy i

1816
01:25:31,600 --> 01:25:30,469
talk about your us so my dad was so open

1817
01:25:33,100 --> 01:25:31,610
minded you

1818
01:25:36,160 --> 01:25:33,110
he might not be able to talk about that

1819
01:25:38,500 --> 01:25:36,170
Bohol's about the dead you know they

1820
01:25:41,680 --> 01:25:38,510
love that stuff and he's the one who

1821
01:25:43,720 --> 01:25:41,690
really got me hooked on the next between

1822
01:25:45,879 --> 01:25:43,730
quantum in theoretical physics and the

1823
01:25:48,459 --> 01:25:45,889
paranormal and also the importance of

1824
01:25:51,850 --> 01:25:48,469
numbers in mathematics as sort of

1825
01:25:54,310 --> 01:25:51,860
foundation of reality wow those 16 that

1826
01:25:57,370 --> 01:25:54,320
my dad really pushed now learn about

1827
01:26:00,669 --> 01:25:57,380
this learn oh I'm so jealous that's so

1828
01:26:02,379 --> 01:26:00,679
awesome yeah i did have most of my

1829
01:26:04,120 --> 01:26:02,389
family poke a stick at me as they are

1830
01:26:09,100 --> 01:26:04,130
you real are you really seriously going

1831
01:26:10,660 --> 01:26:09,110
there what's your problem Heidi and now

1832
01:26:12,100 --> 01:26:10,670
there's some of them are kind of strange

1833
01:26:14,590 --> 01:26:12,110
like myself that have experience on

1834
01:26:17,830 --> 01:26:14,600
things too so it's ok I'm on I'm among

1835
01:26:19,930 --> 01:26:17,840
friends and family there ah but you know

1836
01:26:22,890 --> 01:26:19,940
I would ask you do you do you do events

1837
01:26:25,209 --> 01:26:22,900
is there anything coming up soon I

1838
01:26:28,390 --> 01:26:25,219
unfortunately the last few months have

1839
01:26:30,459 --> 01:26:28,400
not been able to do anything my son was

1840
01:26:33,700 --> 01:26:30,469
supposed to be having some surgeries but

1841
01:26:36,129 --> 01:26:33,710
that all got shuffled around hmm um so I

1842
01:26:39,070 --> 01:26:36,139
have a couple of things that are being

1843
01:26:41,439 --> 01:26:39,080
wind up for februari March of next year

1844
01:26:43,660 --> 01:26:41,449
and then we'll see what comes up and the

1845
01:26:45,310 --> 01:26:43,670
really cool thing is now making a little

1846
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bit of transition into fiction I'm

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hopefully gonna be at some of the big

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cons yet comic-con and Dragon Con oh

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like that doesn't go through their the

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mother no oh my god I'm like such a

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dorky fangirl oh my god I you know even

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with my paranormal books I've spoken at

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some of those i have had the best time

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at those oh my god i totally feel you

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trinity yeah cuz you get exposed to a

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lot of people who you know may not go to

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a paranormal quote-unquote conference

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but we're gonna be exposed to them

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they're so oh how much fun my goodness

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what I want you to put out you know your

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website again and how can people get a

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hold of you and share their minds with

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you share your mind let's build the

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website is marie d jones calm and i'm on

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facebook and twitter and linkedin all

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that stuff in the books are sold

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everywhere they should be in your

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brick-and-mortar stores if you don't

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like buying online if not

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I have to order it let's save those

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bookstores people yeah you're an Amazon

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and books million and all that stuff

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barnes and noble barnes and noble has

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been my champion they have always taken

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books and Everton from your page and

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done special promotions and I'm so

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grateful to barnes noble very cool well

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I want to thank you so much for coming

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on my show we got to do this again oh we

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do we barely scratched the surface your

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god yeah i mean this is this is just the

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beginning Murray I don't know if you

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knew that but yeah so we'll do a part

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two okay well do perform ceiling stories

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you go well you guys we have comes at

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the bottom of the show once again I'm so

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sorry goes so fast remember you can

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catch me here every Friday 9 p.m.

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Eastern a p.m. central you've been

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listening to me heidi hollis the

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Outlander on inception radio network